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Originally Posted by Red__Zed because you referenced it again as a source. You can get rid of me forever with a quick 5 minute Google search--I don't see why you

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Old 05-28-2013, 03:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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because you referenced it again as a source.

You can get rid of me forever with a quick 5 minute Google search--I don't see why you wouldn't
no i didnt.... The first time i saw that since i wrote it was when you quoted it AN HOUR AGO. Either you're buggin out or your computer is doing things on its own. You went diggin' for that shyt, not me.

I think you're just trying to discredit me based on my comments on IRS right now.

I couldnt find it then. I cant find it now. The article was in a mag anyway.
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I couldnt find it then. I cant find it now. The article was in a mag anyway.
I'll up it to $1000 so you can buy a scanner and scan the article into the computer
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Live Axle does have certain LARGE advantages on SOME tracks. But IRS is the superior street suspension hands down. Which is where most you slouches stay driving... That's why most above average street vehicles have IRS. Any 30k-60k sports car will need mods to the IRS to make it ideal. End of story. No 5 figure car is perfect. Many 6 figure cars aren't perfect.
Are these still the right skid pad number for "street" vs "track" grip?

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The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.



These are your quotes that started this. Look at the top post, then look at the history u brought. The first post is today... The second you dig up from years ago... How does it relate? What are you proving?

You classically brought the convo back to mustang.
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Nope, Caustic did. I wasn't even involved in the thread at that point.

I can't read the way you have the post quoted, suffice to say it does cover your "street vs track" grip claim.
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Your not going to be happy until the guy caves are you?

It's not worth it ... I'd let it go.
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Your not going to be happy until the guy caves are you?

It's not worth it ... I'd let it go.
Why should i cave on something thats not even part of this thread. He brought it in here.
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Your not going to be happy until the guy caves are you?

It's not worth it ... I'd let it go.
I have more of a vested interest in this forum not turning into the Z33 forums. I like it as a good resource for factual information, rather than an information free-for-all where folks feel comfortable making things up.

I'd drop it if it was just about who is "right" and who is "wrong." I've passed on a number of nonfactual claims in here because they aren't coming from a false place of authority.
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I have more of a vested interest in this forum not turning into the Z33 forums. I like it as a good resource for factual information, rather than an information free-for-all where folks feel comfortable making things up.

I'd drop it if it was just about who is "right" and who is "wrong." I've passed on a number of nonfactual claims in here because they aren't coming from a false place of authority.
SO YOU BRING UP A 2 YEAR OLD POST NOT FROM THIS THREAD THAT I DID NOT REFERENCE, YOU LIE THERE...
to bring up a mustang comment you feel is false on a Z forum. Shouldn't potential mustang owners look for truth in the Mustang forums. Shouldn't you be in a mustang forum helping your mustang brothers instead of trolling on a Z forum. You are not the information savior of this forum. We have plenty of guys that know just as much as you and throw it out there in a much more constructive fashion.

More important than a informed Z forum is a united Z forum, before we share information, we share love for our cars first. Some of us don't get along. We add guys to the iggy list etc... But what brings us together first is our love for our cars. Not how inferior our cars to mustang.

I'm done
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SO YOU BRING UP A 2 YEAR OLD POST NOT FROM THIS THREAD THAT I DID NOT REFERENCE, YOU LIE THERE...
to bring up a mustang comment you feel is false on a Z forum. Shouldn't potential mustang owners look for truth in the Mustang forums. Shouldn't you be in a mustang forum helping your mustang brothers instead of trolling on a Z forum. You are not the information savior of this forum. We have plenty of guys that know just as much as you and throw it out there in a much more constructive fashion.

More important than a informed Z forum is a united Z forum, before we share information, we share love for our cars first. Some of us don't get along. We add guys to the iggy list etc... But what brings us together first is our love for our cars. Not how inferior our cars to mustang.

I'm done

Still grasping at straws to draw attention away from the fact that you are caught in a lie?


Nobody here is talking about "370Z inferiority..." well...except for you. I'm correcting blatant falsehoods, like:

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Live Axle does have certain LARGE advantages on SOME tracks. But IRS is the superior street suspension hands down. Which is where most you slouches stay driving... That's why most above average street vehicles have IRS. Any 30k-60k sports car will need mods to the IRS to make it ideal. End of story. No 5 figure car is perfect. Many 6 figure cars aren't perfect.

Is a well-sorted one superior? Absolutely. Is a poorly sorted one better? Absolutely not. Is a particular multi-link better than a particular SRA? It's pretty hard to say, and depends a lot on your use case.

This is probably pretty difficult for you to grasp, when you make claims about the existence of an article that compares "street grip" to "track grip," as if there was some sort of standard that could be used to evaluate a variety of road surfaces broadly. Are we talking about the battle-scarred roads of NJ, or SD...or Florida? Or California's concrete highways?

And are we comparing to Laguna Seca or VIR? The Ring? Not only is such a study infeasible, unrealistic, and completely lacking in value...it would never be bothered with on such a specific car, as you claim.


But sure, you can chalk this up to some "mustang vs Z" thing, when the guys at the center of it don't own Mustangs and haven't for a while. I have no hose in this race (pun obviously intended), and you are welcome to continue to spread your misinformation as much as you please...but please at least qualify it as your opinion rather than verified fact.
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