Nismo or boss ?

SAmilitaryman · 05-29-2013, 09:51 AM

So basicly what you all are saying is the OP should drive both cars extensively before making a decision?

Got ya

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman

So basicly what you all are saying is the OP should drive both cars extensively before making a decision?

Got ya

But he needs to take great care to only drive the Boss on flat surfaces with no turns, and to NOT slow down for turns in his NISMO as that is how both cars work.

Spikuh · 05-29-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SAmilitaryman

So basicly what you all are saying is the OP should drive both cars extensively before making a decision?

Got ya

Some of us yes, but not all of us. For example some fanbois and myself made no such claim. Can we argue now?

But for the OP, if he is still around, if I had the option between a NISMO and a Boss....I would definitely have to get the McLaren P1.

Really though, its kind of a toss up, but I feel like I would lean towards the Boss a bit more just because of the better aftermarket and the better clutch/tranny.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 10:01 AM

All things are pretty equal in the Continental Tire series and the Mustangs, M3s, Camaros, etc. all seem to go back and forth as far as who wins each race.

Red__Zed · 05-29-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

All things are pretty equal in the Continental Tire series and the Mustangs, M3s, Camaros, etc. all seem to go back and forth as far as who wins each race.

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That last picture is pretty telling. You can see the porsches and 370z are about to lap all of the Mustangs.

Tazicon · 05-29-2013, 10:21 AM

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That last picture is pretty telling. You can see the porsches and 370z are about to lap all of the Mustangs.

Isn't there only one Z in that series and they are new to it? lol

Red__Zed · 05-29-2013, 10:24 AM

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Isn't there only one Z in that series and they are new to it? lol

pls don't interrupt my joking

Tazicon · 05-29-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

pls don't interrupt my joking

Sorry..................

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 10:03 AM

Normally I would go back and scale down the image, but this thread is so f*cked it doesn't matter.

DCNISMO · 05-29-2013, 10:20 AM

Grand Am plays LOTS of games with weight, weight positions, throttle bodies, brakes, and other things to make the cars be fairly equal on the track. Soon as one team gets a clear advantage they make them add weight, restrict airflow, limit tire size...yadayada....Thats why the Continental series race is a crash fest...they get all bunched up and the only way to get position is to barge your way in or bump the next guy off the line. Its pretty fun to watch in person actually.

Sh0velMan · 05-29-2013, 10:27 AM

Grand Am is a horrible example of which platform is faster.

As mentioned before, they play huge games with weight, restrictors, RPM limits, tires, so on and so on. I mean ****, you have the exact same cars in more than one class... that should tell you something.

Fact is, there has only ever been one Z at a time in Grand Am (Don't think AM and Doran overlapped anyway) and partly because of that, a Z has never won. I don't think one has even podiumed.

All it takes is one turn of bad luck and an entire platform is out of the running for the race (or entire weekend). Add to that Nissan being fickle about sponsoring races for the teams and, well... yeah.

Anyway point is, Grand Am is an awful example of which platform is faster, no matter what you're comparing.

Spikuh · 05-29-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Grand Am is a horrible example of which platform is faster.

As mentioned before, they play huge games with weight, restrictors, RPM limits, tires, so on and so on. I mean ****, you have the exact same cars in more than one class... that should tell you something.

Fact is, there has only ever been one Z at a time in Grand Am (Don't think AM and Doran overlapped anyway) and partly because of that, a Z has never won. I don't think one has even podiumed.

All it takes is one turn of bad luck and an entire platform is out of the running for the race (or entire weekend). Add to that Nissan being fickle about sponsoring races for the teams and, well... yeah.

Anyway point is, Grand Am is an awful example of which platform is faster, no matter what you're comparing.

But but....equal....things....equal and....IRSSRAIRSSRAUSAUSAUSA

Sh0velMan · 05-29-2013, 10:36 AM

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But but....equal....things....equal and....IRSSRAIRSSRAUSAUSAUSA

Only racing series that are really "equalish" without being literally spec chassis are things like V8 Supercars, Trans Am, DTM and maybe a handful of others around the world.

Everything else, someone's gettin the short end of the stick for one reason or another.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Grand Am is a horrible example of which platform is faster.

As mentioned before, they play huge games with weight, restrictors, RPM limits, tires, so on and so on. I mean ****, you have the exact same cars in more than one class... that should tell you something.

Fact is, there has only ever been one Z at a time in Grand Am (Don't think AM and Doran overlapped anyway) and partly because of that, a Z has never won. I don't think one has even podiumed.

All it takes is one turn of bad luck and an entire platform is out of the running for the race (or entire weekend). Add to that Nissan being fickle about sponsoring races for the teams and, well... yeah.

Anyway point is, Grand Am is an awful example of which platform is faster, no matter what you're comparing.

But when all things are equal...

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 10:36 AM

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SAmilitaryman Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 168 Drives: 09 Nissan black 370z Rep Power: 13	So basicly what you all are saying is the OP should drive both cars extensively before making a decision? Got ya

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DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	Grand Am plays LOTS of games with weight, weight positions, throttle bodies, brakes, and other things to make the cars be fairly equal on the track. Soon as one team gets a clear advantage they make them add weight, restrict airflow, limit tire size...yadayada....Thats why the Continental series race is a crash fest...they get all bunched up and the only way to get position is to barge your way in or bump the next guy off the line. Its pretty fun to watch in person actually.