Nismo or boss ?

m4a1mustang

Tomorrow I'm going to try not slowing down for any turns.

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JungleZ

I've never driven a nismo is it that more thrilling compared to base 3.7 with fast Intentions exhaust In a straight line?

Mandingo

no

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m4a1mustang

Impossibru!!!





Edit: I just called the owner of the pictured Mustang and he too confirmed he was only touring the 'Ring at 10 mph. The maximum possible speed for a Mustang on anything but a flat surface.

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/Angelo350Z/

You guys are right. Cars with a solid axle will perform as well on a track as a car with IRS. Look, I can post pics of a vehicle exiting a corner as well. Unfortunately, it doesn't show how fast it's going, or how slow it is in relation to the cars around it.



Bottom line, with all things being equal: power, torque, weight, engine layout, and weight, a car with IRS will put power to the ground more efficiently than a car with a solid rear axle. There's really no denying it.

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m4a1mustang

No one is denying it. But you guys are making it sound like it's impossible for a SRA car to perform when it's been proven time and time again that they can. Even when those with experience say that their setups are very settled, it's still impossible because it's a solid axle, and well, if you guys say it can't, then it can't!

And like it has been mentioned many times before, for an IRS setup to be better than a well sorted SRA, the geometry has to be right. There are more mediocre independent rear suspension setups out there than there are good ones.

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StangerGT

Also Id like to mention that in my pic... i said... i planted the throttle... soooo theres a pic + first hand information...

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You're still lying. Angelo says you can't do it, so you can't.

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fixed it!

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Spikuh

Wrong.

This:



(Also note, this is not even that aggressive on stance, there is far worse.)

Will never put down power as efficiently as this:



Which will never put down power as efficiently as this:



or this:





How effectively a vehicle puts power down depends entirely on the setup and what that setup is designed to do. It really is that simple.

Just FYI, the 240sx is an IRS setup.

So let's do a quick mind exercise. Take that first 240sx, lean the rears out even more and make the stance super crazy, then build it so that has the same paper stats as a 5.0. Line them up, put them down a strip and then around a track. Who is going to win?

According to you, the 240sx will win....because IRS. To anyone with a pair of eyes, the 5.0 will destroy it.

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Did you miss the point where I said with ALL things being equal? Equal means the same doesn't it? So why bring a 240SX and a 5.0 Mustang? Are they the same?

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Spikuh

OMG you are choosing to be really dumb... This is just baffling... READ SON!!!! READ!!!! FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR MOTHER AND I, L2READ!!!!! Both what you wrote and what I wrote.

You want all things equal, EXCEPT THE SUSPENSION. Look at your sentence structure son. You stop the series when you used and. In all honesty, there should probably be a semi-colon where you start saying "a car....herp derp". On top of that, SRA and IRS and NOT equal. Not in any sense of the word so why are you trying to make them equal? If they WERE equal, and everything else is equal then guess what.....

THEY WILL PERFORM THE SAME BECAUSE ITS ALL EQUAL!!!!!

IRS would NOT outperform SRA in the scenario you think you are saying because by being equal, they inherently are equally capable.

So anyway, back to what I was saying and the point I made which is:

You can't really boil this down much more. However, since you don't understand this sentence then read that quote over and over and over until something finally clicks....or, just look at the pictures and the handful of words I typed. They tell a story...kind of like a picture book. The same story that is boiled down into the quote above.

Please..... take a look, it's in a book,



(That last part is to sung like Oprah)

EDIT: Had fun, I'm out. Need food and to do a bit of work.

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I was scared that I was actually seeing someone dying here. Whew!

m4a1mustang

You're wrong, Spikuh. Solid axles can't turn and 370Zs don't have to slow down for corners because IRS.

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m4a1mustang

I drove flat out to work this morning. It was awesome.

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