Nismo or boss ?

Bucketlist2012 · 05-28-2013, 02:42 PM

Funny how Unknown 370 is always so angry....Thanks for quoting him, otherwise I cannot read his posts.....

And the namecalling ? Anger and not very composed....

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

Funny how Unknown 370 is always so angry....Thanks for quoting him, otherwise I cannot read his posts.....

And the namecalling ? Anger and not very composed....

This coming from the guy defending an unrelated drag racing position based on an autobahn comment that was deleted anyway.

Also the same guy that the first 6 months of his time on the forum began most his posts with his wealth and financial situation.

StangerGT · 05-28-2013, 02:51 PM

Unless you guys have been under a rock for the past 3-4 years... you would realize that GM and Ford are pushing their muscle cars into the sports car realm.

Thus the comparison... because aside from whatever image you may have in your head... they are infact comparable in a multitude of ways...

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

Unless you guys have been under a rock for the past 3-4 years... you would realize that GM and Ford are pushing their muscle cars into the sports car realm.

Thus the comparison... because aside from whatever image you may have in your head... they are infact comparable in a multitude of ways...

This is true but, I do not think the majority of Z owners are looking at the Muscle Car / Straight Line solely. The are looking for a more balanced package> Such as: Great handling, good interior, good fuel economy, reliability with good looks.

In my head, I still view the Mustang as a sporty muscle car not a sports car.
Especially, after my recent experience. My friend is so upset and I have had it with Ford service.

StangerGT · 05-28-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

This is true but, I do not think the majority of Z owners are looking at the Muscle Car / Straight Line solely. The are looking for a more balanced package> Such as: Great handling, good interior, good fuel economy, reliability with good looks.

In my head, I still view the Mustang as a sporty muscle car not a sports car.
Especially, after my recent experience. My friend is so upset and I have had it with Ford service.

I would wager to say a Mustang GT Track Pack would offer all of this...

You're one friend... is just that... one. My friend just so happens to be a Ford service manager... and he loves the things. Does this counter you're statement equally?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

I would wager to say a Mustang GT Track Pack would offer all of this...

but I feel the Z offers more feedback at the steering wheel and the Z's seating position aids in the car feeling much more engaging. Mustang steering wheel feels muted in corners and missing the feeling of connection to the road.

The mustang is faster in every way and can essentially do the same job. But the z feels better doing it.

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

I would wager to say a Mustang GT Track Pack would offer all of this...

You're one friend... is just that... one. My friend just so happens to be a Ford service manager... and he loves the things. Does this counter you're statement equally?

All I can say is he has been a loyal Mustang fan for years. I have been too. I just do not think the interior quality is there. Let me mention that I also test drove a Mach 1 before I bought my 350Z. Then when I was considering the Mustang yet again prior to the purchase of the 370Z; my stopped me from going to Ford by saying "One of my friends is having issues with her Mustang and Mustangs were for kids in High School. Vettes and Z's are for those of us that are not trying to relive our past." I think she got that right. I always have loved Mustangs and imo right now they just are not as well built or good looking inside and out. That is subjective I know but, I do have a lot of quality control experience to back it up. Just look at the dash. It's awful...

Don't get me wrong ... I'd still like to own a Boss Mustang someday but, I'm not thinking it's a better built vehicle and I'd buy a extended warrantee for sure.

forza370z · 05-28-2013, 10:59 PM

Wow... Nismo or boss ?? Chill out everybody! Now the question is where is the OP???

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StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecinoid

All I can say is he has been a loyal Mustang fan for years. I have been too. I just do not think the interior quality is there. Let me mention that I also test drove a Mach 1 before I bought my 350Z. Then when I was considering the Mustang yet again prior to the purchase of the 370Z; my stopped me from going to Ford by saying "One of my friends is having issues with her Mustang and Mustangs were for kids in High School. Vettes and Z's are for those of us that are not trying to relive our past." I think she got that right. I always have loved Mustangs and imo right now they just are not as well built or good looking inside and out. That is subjective I know but, I do have a lot of quality control experience to back it up. Just look at the dash. It's awful...

Don't get me wrong ... I'd still like to own a Boss Mustang someday but, I'm not thinking it's a better built vehicle and I'd buy a extended warrantee for sure.

really?

NASA Pony Car Racing
Not adult enough i guess...

If you like a specific interior... or you like a car because you like it... no issues...

But srsly?

Kingbaby · 05-28-2013, 03:19 PM

did the OP get that camaro like I said?

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 03:53 PM

Well then, the saga will continue ... unsubscribing because your filling up my email with this stuff.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 04:47 PM

So you're mad at my current comment and brought up a 2 year old post to kinda give you some validity... Listen to Randy's comments on LA vs IRS on the camaro and mustang comparo. AND WATCH EACH SYSTEM IN ACTION. The proof is in the vid.

LA has it's advantages in some applications though. I'm not going to discuss that though with you because you don't deserve the respect of having a dicussion with.

Done with troll iggy list updated.

Red__Zed · 05-28-2013, 05:11 PM

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So you're mad at my current comment and brought up a 2 year old post to kinda give you some validity... Listen to Randy's comments on LA vs IRS on the camaro and mustang comparo. AND WATCH EACH SYSTEM IN ACTION. The proof is in the vid.

LA has it's advantages in some applications though. I'm not going to discuss that though with you because you don't deserve the respect of having a dicussion with.

Done with troll iggy list updated.

Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.

Either that or you're attempting a rather bold strawman. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you've failed to read, rather than claim you're being malicious. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by...well...nevermind.

Anyways, I will provide my post again here for your scrutiny. Can you dig out the pile of insults, because I sure can't find them.

You're putting words in my mouth that aren't there. I'd choose a well-sorted IRS over an SRA 9 time out of 10, and I've never said any different. (I will keep my solid axles for wheelin' tho)

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The type of bump that is big enough to upset the wheel on the other end of the stick will also wreak havoc on an IRS system.

For recreational use, the biggest downer is the lack of rear camber. You have to do all you dialing in via the front wheels, and the rear is basically a fixed quantity.

Your claim about the average joe being faster in the m3 is interesting.

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

Drivers 2011 BMW M3 2011 Mustang GT
JOE 92.07 sec 91.52 sec
PRO 87.67 sec 87.76 sec

The major benefits to independent rear isn't so much isolation as it is adjustability. It's not an inherent property of a multi-link system either--it requires quite a bit of time to get right, and most commercial vehicles never get it finished...the A curve should look familiar to any serious 370z drivers

The IRS is a much better system--it offers less unsprung weight and a wide range of adjustability that race teams are able to take advantage of. The mustang will do well when it gets one, but to pretend the car isn't capable because of it is laughable.

Tazicon · 05-28-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

(I will keep my solid axles for wheelin' tho)

Good man! Spoken like some that likes them there rocks!

Red__Zed · 05-28-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon

Good man! Spoken like some that likes them there rocks!

why stop at just one very expensive car hobby? Might as well do a couple

05-28-2013, 02:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 17	Funny how Unknown 370 is always so angry....Thanks for quoting him, otherwise I cannot read his posts..... And the namecalling ? Anger and not very composed.... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500 Last edited by Bucketlist2012; 05-28-2013 at 02:45 PM.

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StangerGT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: MD Posts: 294 Drives: 2003 Mustang GT Rep Power: 13	Unless you guys have been under a rock for the past 3-4 years... you would realize that GM and Ford are pushing their muscle cars into the sports car realm. Thus the comparison... because aside from whatever image you may have in your head... they are infact comparable in a multitude of ways... Spikuh and b1adesofcha0s like this. __________________ Maximum Motorsports Susp. \| MM Adj. Rear LCA \| MM CC Plates \| MM Front Coilovers 350lb \| MM Rear 500lb Springs \| Full Cobra Brakes \| FR 3.73 Gears \| FR LSD/31 Spline \| JPC/SCT Tune \| MGW Short Shifter \| Star Spec 265/35/18x9 F - 275/35/18x10 R \| stock exhaust lolz

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	So you're mad at my current comment and brought up a 2 year old post to kinda give you some validity... Listen to Randy's comments on LA vs IRS on the camaro and mustang comparo. AND WATCH EACH SYSTEM IN ACTION. The proof is in the vid. LA has it's advantages in some applications though. I'm not going to discuss that though with you because you don't deserve the respect of having a dicussion with. Done with troll iggy list updated. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 05-28-2013 at 04:50 PM.

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