Nismo or boss ?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 12:49 PM

Live Axle does have certain LARGE advantages on SOME tracks. But IRS is the superior street suspension hands down. Which is where most you slouches stay driving... That's why most above average street vehicles have IRS. Any 30k-60k sports car will need mods to the IRS to make it ideal. End of story. No 5 figure car is perfect. Many 6 figure cars aren't perfect.

Red__Zed · 05-28-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Live Axle does have certain LARGE advantages on SOME tracks. But IRS is the superior street suspension hands down. Which is where most you slouches stay driving... That's why most above average street vehicles have IRS. Any 30k-60k sports car will need mods to the IRS to make it ideal. End of story. No 5 figure car is perfect. Many 6 figure cars aren't perfect.

Are these still the right skid pad number for "street" vs "track" grip?

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The funniest part to me is when the OP says. A Z outhandle a mustang? Really? Its like he can't elaborate because he's never driven a Z. And if he has? Not hard or extensively enough to really make a comparison. NOW. Though the mustang is greatly improved. The mustang G's are .95g which is great for a car of that size. But that G, is a track recorded grip level. On the street, that same exact brembo'ed and suspensioned Z drops to .87g which again, .87g on the street is great. But the lowest out sport models get on the street is middle 90's. Our cars still corner way better. Our steering feel is way better. Turn in feels way more precise and and flatter. As good as the stang is its just not up to snuff in handling. But it does kick *** compared to its muscle bredrin.

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Are these still the right skid pad number for "street" vs "track" grip?

Water under the bridge, man. Those days are over.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Are these still the right skid pad number for "street" vs "track" grip?

That was an article i had read a few years ago now, Mustang Gt street vs Track. But couldn't find that article again cuz i don't remember who published it.

What's your fvckin point Red in bringing a 2+year old post?

Red__Zed · 05-28-2013, 01:19 PM

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That was an article i had read a few years ago now, Mustang Gt street vs Track. But couldn't find that article again cuz i don't remember who published it.

What's your fvckin point Red in bringing a 2+year old post?

What's your basis for your claim?

We established there was no article the last time this came up.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 01:29 PM

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What's your basis for your claim?

We established there was no article the last time this came up.

No, we established i couldn't find it.

You know what bugs me out... That post that upset you so... I STILL wasn't saying anything negative. Let's pretend just for the sake of pretending i never read that. "Which i did?" I still didn't say anything negative about the stang. It wasn't derogatory, and if you think about it. The GT suffers from lots of roll and pitch anyway... So it's not totally inconceivable for it to drop off some G's under certain conditions anyway being an LA.

So why does it get under your skin so. If no one believes that it's not a budget M3 it pisses you off that much???

Fvckin fanboys damn!!!

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 12:54 PM

IRS is better overall hands down. No one has ever questioned that. I know myself and Dan are always quick to point out that just because something has a solid axle doesn't mean it can't handle, because we've BTDT. So many people assume stick axle = can't turn AT ALL! That's all this has ever been about.

But, since it's the internet, and we all need something to do while we're at work...

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 01:41 PM

Oh it just got real.

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 01:48 PM

I just want to hard park outside of Starbucks and watch for Jeep SRT8s.

StangerGT · 05-28-2013, 01:54 PM

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I just want to hard park outside of Starbucks and watch for Jeep SRT8s.

We can hard park together

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 01:56 PM

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We can hard park together

Only if you turn in your NASA card.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-28-2013, 02:37 PM

Once you actually get on the track is when you realize that none of this sh1t even matters. It's more about driver experience/skill than anything else. You could give the same car to 10 different drivers on a track and get 10 wildly different times.

StangerGT · 05-28-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Once you actually get on the track is when you realize that none of this sh1t even matters. It's more about driver experience/skill than anything else. You could give the same car to 10 different drivers on a track and get 10 wildly different times.

+ infinity...

b1adesofcha0s · 05-28-2013, 02:40 PM

Mustang Grip: Street vs Track
By b1adesofcha0s

Track grip = 0.95 g
Street grip = 0.87 g

The End

b1adesofcha0s · 05-28-2013, 02:41 PM

There's the article, I can haz $750 now?

05-28-2013, 12:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Live Axle does have certain LARGE advantages on SOME tracks. But IRS is the superior street suspension hands down. Which is where most you slouches stay driving... That's why most above average street vehicles have IRS. Any 30k-60k sports car will need mods to the IRS to make it ideal. End of story. No 5 figure car is perfect. Many 6 figure cars aren't perfect. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

05-28-2013, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	IRS is better overall hands down. No one has ever questioned that. I know myself and Dan are always quick to point out that just because something has a solid axle doesn't mean it can't handle, because we've BTDT. So many people assume stick axle = can't turn AT ALL! That's all this has ever been about. But, since it's the internet, and we all need something to do while we're at work... __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-28-2013, 01:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Oh it just got real. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-28-2013, 01:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	I just want to hard park outside of Starbucks and watch for Jeep SRT8s. Spikuh, lemon-fresh and StangerGT like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-28-2013, 02:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	Once you actually get on the track is when you realize that none of this sh1t even matters. It's more about driver experience/skill than anything else. You could give the same car to 10 different drivers on a track and get 10 wildly different times. Spikuh, StangerGT and GSS138 like this. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

05-28-2013, 02:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	Mustang Grip: Street vs Track By b1adesofcha0s Track grip = 0.95 g Street grip = 0.87 g The End Red__Zed and StangerGT like this. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

05-28-2013, 02:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 142	There's the article, I can haz $750 now? __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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