Nismo or boss ?

red2010z · 05-27-2013, 07:16 PM

No I am a cracker.

Kingbaby · 05-27-2013, 07:49 PM

Get the Camaro

Highway · 05-27-2013, 07:53 PM

get a back seat...

ElVee · 05-27-2013, 08:54 PM

You'll have to drive both and figure out which will make you happier. A Boss 302 should be able to give a Nismo a run for its money no matter the situation (and vice versa). It should be close enough that it will depend on intangibles that you feel and do while driving. While most Mustangs can handle sloppy, the 302 is the exception.

Be aware there is a Leguna Seca package which you'll probably want to try out.

If it were me, the rarity of the Z is value and happiness. A Boss 302 Leguna Seca is going to just be another "Mustang" to all but the discerning enthusiast.

scope22 · 05-27-2013, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnYu

Thinking trade my nismo in for boss ? Any idea guys ? Which car faster more fun if both are stock ? Both car about same price 41k -48k ! I know boss have more hp .

2015 is new body and new suspension...i'd wait untill then

Vichtz · 05-27-2013, 09:29 PM

Plus anything with a BOSS tag is going to hold its value more in this country. probably. But at the rate you run through cars, might as well get one and get a lambo next week...

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 12:06 AM

Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years.
I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and will stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see.

raymondo510 · 05-28-2013, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years.
I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see.

Well said

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-28-2013, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymondo510

Well said

I second that.

/Angelo350Z/ · 05-28-2013, 10:43 AM

Just a few pics

LiquidCrewZ · 05-28-2013, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years.
I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see.

Couldn't agree more. If I end up keeping my 370z, I'm boosting and never looking back. Well I might look back to see everyone I race in the rear view mirror haha

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidCrewZ

Couldn't agree more. If I end up keeping my 370z, I'm boosting and never looking back. Well I might look back to see everyone I race in the rear view mirror haha

This is the perfect solution. I was thinking the same thing. I'd love to go with a Stillen Kit. My problems is putting another 10K in my Firebird would easily get me a 7 second car. Putting that same 10K into the Z might get 10 second car. Hence the dilemma.

Ah, just sell them all and get a C7. Hopefully, there will be a ZR1 version with over 750HP. That would cause me to stand up and take notice of GM again.
Not likely ...

m4a1mustang · 05-28-2013, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years.
I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and will stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see.

I don't really agree with this. My '11 5.0 had less problems than my '09 370Z and both seemed to be about the same in terms of build quality. I'd expect a new Mustang to last just as long as a new Z under the same conditions.

The only difference being that the Mustang will look years newer than the Z after 10 years since all of Nissan's terrible paint and clear will have melted off by then.

The Nissan doesn't even come close to the Ford in terms of paint quality/durability.

Mecinoid · 05-28-2013, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't really agree with this. My '11 5.0 had less problems than my '09 370Z and both seemed to be about the same in terms of build quality. I'd expect a new Mustang to last just as long as a new Z under the same conditions.

The only difference being that the Mustang will look years newer than the Z after 10 years since all of Nissan's terrible paint and clear will have melted off by then.

The Nissan doesn't even come close to the Ford in terms of paint quality/durability.

The beauty of the internet is that we can have varying opinions. In my defense the newest Ford Product I've owned was 2007. The Ford had lot's of problems from the factory. When it comes to Nissans I owned a bunch without a single problem. Many, many Z's, Pathfinders, Altimas and Maximas.
Just change the oil, do the maintenance and drive. My wife will never give up her Maxima. It's a great car! Again no issues from the factory. Not even a ding or nick in the paint on delivery. Same went for my 350Z and 370Z. Not a nick, ding or flaw in the paint. GM - Blah. I had to have them re-spray the car the first week of ownership. Bought that at night. Paint drips, light paint, panel miss alignment. Yuck.... But, it's all sorted now.

I hope that Ford has come that far. Like I said, I was a Ford brat. I was fortunate enough to have a new Ford car every year for 20+ years. Always some defect from the factory. Generally, fit and finish related. I don't see that it changed with my friends car either. The dash went wacky on him early on. Every Ford I know of has some problem from the factory. The exception may have been my 1986 Ford Taurus. I can not recall anything wrong with it from the factory. My friend's 2012 Mustang is going to be lemon lawed due to the engine light going on and engine miss-fires anything over 5Krpm and Ford can not figure it out.

The paint on my Nissan's has always been good. I claybar them and wax them regularly to make them perfect. Here is a picture of my 1984 AE with factory paint:

and my '86 Turbo paint:

On the other hand:

The paint on my '99 Sable and '87 Mustang Turbo faded and clearcoat bubbled after 10 years.

To each his own and I'm OK with that.

DLSTR · 05-28-2013, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecinoid

Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years.
I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and will stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see.

+1 Agree'd. I watched the TopGear episode where Jeremy ran the new Shelby GT500 down to Italy. Loved the power but did not like the lack of refinement. Thats why I have a Z.

Plus the useless comparisons of muscle cars to the Z is annoying. Let me know when the 240 was ever a muscle car. Or any other Z. They have been sporscars from day 1 in an affordable package. They were never muscle or street/drag racers by design.

Even the motoring press know that. The comparison is price only, the competition in class is the Cayman among others like it.

05-27-2013, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
red2010z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Texas/North Carolina Age: 39 Posts: 587 Drives: '10 Red B/S/M Rep Power: 13	No I am a cracker. Amuse370z, JARblue, songbong and 1 others like this. __________________ AGENCY K&N SWIFT CSF EVO-R VOSSEN MICHELIN Z1 JVC ZENCLOSURE JLW3 JVC

05-27-2013, 07:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Highway Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 394 Drives: Offroad Rep Power: 15	get a back seat... shadoquad and Shadezz like this.

05-27-2013, 09:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vichtz Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Unknown Posts: 538 Drives: PG 09 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	Plus anything with a BOSS tag is going to hold its value more in this country. probably. But at the rate you run through cars, might as well get one and get a lambo next week... __________________ очень быстро ... Stillen Gen 3 CAI// Stillen CBE// B&M SS with PWJDM Shift Knob// Custom OCC// Drilled/Slotted Rotors//Halo/painted Headlights// Under-hood dress up

05-28-2013, 12:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mecinoid Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Discovery Bay Posts: 234 Drives: 16 370Z Sport Wht S7 Rep Power: 6725	Let me try to be objective here. Being a Ford kid as I grew up. My Dad was a Ford executive. I liked/loved Fords. After experiencing Z cars many years ago I became a Nissan fan due to their quality and durability. I own a Supercharged '98 Firebird that has great quality and I believe that the Mustang over the years has improved as much in the quality arena. However, the Mustang, Camaro, Corvette and Firebird interior always have seemed really cheap to me. I've owned them all. The exception to this rule might be the C7 Corvette which could me my next purchase in 2015 if all goes well. The one thing about American sports cars is that generally the interior is a step down or two from a German or Japanese production car. The fit of these American cars has improved over the years but, the finish and interior not so much over the years. I too have thought about getting a Lime Green Boss 302 to drive it till it's got 100K on the clock. However, my 370Z will last well over 200K just like all my other Z's. So, if your buying it to drive daily for the next 10 years. Buy a Z. IMO if your buying to drive it for the next 5 years get the Ford. If you are a low mileage driver (10K per year) you might have your Mustang last 10year without major rebuild. That's my take. The Z last longer and will stay in better condition over the years. Just look at a few five year old Z's verses a few five year old Mustang's (some Z members call them Rustangs) and you'll see. UNKNOWN_370, stunner253, gbrettin and 4 others like this. __________________ Z-Forum Member since 2001. Multiple Z owner since 1983 ------- Awesome ---------- Z. --------- Enjoy the ride !!! Last edited by Mecinoid; 05-28-2013 at 01:21 AM.

05-28-2013, 10:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3661	Just a few pics __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

05-27-2013, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 17	You'll have to drive both and figure out which will make you happier. A Boss 302 should be able to give a Nismo a run for its money no matter the situation (and vice versa). It should be close enough that it will depend on intangibles that you feel and do while driving. While most Mustangs can handle sloppy, the 302 is the exception. Be aware there is a Leguna Seca package which you'll probably want to try out. If it were me, the rarity of the Z is value and happiness. A Boss 302 Leguna Seca is going to just be another "Mustang" to all but the discerning enthusiast.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Crashing like a boss	ChrisSlicks	Other Vehicles	16	07-12-2012 04:33 PM
How to procrastinate like a boss	jaedub	Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery	21	09-10-2011 07:52 PM
My wife is the boss.....	o0javi0o	Nissan 370Z General Discussions	27	06-02-2011 09:52 AM
Who's the Boss	cfweber	Other Vehicles	34	04-07-2011 06:56 PM