Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am If it makes us feel better, an M3 (E36?) owner told me he needed an extra fuel pump too, to fix fuel starvation.
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05-29-2013, 12:36 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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There are other cars that have the same issue, the s2000 among them, but it's particularly bad in the Z. |
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1.kinda true 2. Thank GOD above for that!!! I did drive a ford probe (total FWD crap!) and a Miata (fun but reeeeeealy slow) for awhile though.
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I've had the fuel starve when at 1/2 tank. I thought I didn't have that issue until I took a sweeping on ramp to the highway in a "highly spirited" fashion then the engine just died. I was mashing the pedal "WTF'ing" for about 5 seconds when she just came back to life and continued on. I guess I incidentally clutch popped the engine back on haha.
What is this extra weight you speak of in the hatch? I don't recall ever hearing about this. Her hatch doesn't seem overly burdensome but then again I've never opened anyone else's hatch. Or maybe I just like my women with heavy rear ends!
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I'm sorry but I don't agree that it is 'in the rough'. A diamond in the rough would be a car that consitantly appears in the lower half of comparative reviews. The Z, -over all- (please don't pull one or two bad comparatives), lands in the middle of the pack. Nissan made compromises to keep the car's cost down and some of them didn't pan out. Just be happy we -can- turn them in to true mini-Godzillas. You could be stuck with a 2.5L that already has a turbo in it and that won't benefit from coil overs or what ever.
There are cars that can out accelerate it, that can out corner it, that can out brake it, that can out anything it. But over all it is a solid car and -very- reliable. That to me describes a finished diamond. Granted...the grade may not have an 'Ideal' across the board but it is a finished diamond. Z owners are, IMHO, -way- too hard on the car. I think it comes from very high expectations that are a result of a love of the brand; a love that comes from a history of meeting high expectations. I'll take a steeering lock issue any day over trannys that fail every 10k miles or engines whos internals fail after 40k.
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I'm of an opinion that the road noise issue has slowly and quietly been addressed over the years by Nissan. I don't really hear this complaint from newer models, and my own newer model is perfectly fine for a sports car.
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By the by, something that could take this thread to a new place would be maybe linking each issue/fix from the first post to a key thread or two about the topic.
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but hmmm let me hit the big ones! 1.Steering lock fuse pull. Wow what a great DIY mod! 20 minutes because I'm an idiot and dropped a leather-man tool down into my bay Steering lock problem solved (for real) 2. no oil cooler - unforgivable defect but easily retrofitted. (I used stillen 25 row kit) Oil Temperatures ? 3. Horrible clutch feel on 6mt - many solutions from removing the stupid assist spring to a full clutch replace. I went full on with a JWT, but do we all agree the OEM clutch sucks donkey balls and should be considered a must fix or is it just me??? RJM Clutch Pedal System for 370Z - Fully Customizable Clutch Feel & Stroke Clutch pedal too soft/no feel? Remove the helper spring! 4.Failure prone CSC. - I did mine when puling apart tyranny to put in JWT. Is it worth swapping before failure? http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-failures.html 5. Massive 25 lb Flywheel. -Is this a poor designby Nissan? I think so!!! I put in a much lighter JWT flywheel and did not notice increase in vibration, but did notice much better throttle response. Jim Wolf Technology Clutch/Flywheel Combo w/ Free Accessories!! FREE 3-DAY SHIPPING! 6. TUNE! - why don't they all come engine tuned to NISMO specs. Why do I have to put it up on a dyno (4-600 bucks) to get the same tune a nismo has stock??? That's just stupid marketing bs IMHO. It would cost Nissan nothing to flash all EDCs with the nismo data no? I don"t have a DIY link but just... well get it done! 7. Horrible road noise. -From day one it has been criticized for road noise by everyone from R&T to my wife. I know sound-proffing is heavy (for you track bubbas), but a little engineering effort to help buffer the howl is definitely needed if you DD (I put some dynamat in key spots, but it still screams on some surfaces) Cabin noise 8. The "sport" VLSD. (let alone the base "open" one!!) -this thing is terrible. A real locking 1.5 or full 2 way (or at least a helical gear type) is a must unless you only bought the car for looks in which case this thread is wasted on you. LSD on Sport Package 9. hatch springs -I mean come ON Nissan DIY: Weight reduction/Fix hatch not opening issue and !!For 370Z Owners with the Stuck Hatch Release Issue!! 10. unnecessary Hatch weight - so stupid that some have and some dont, even the factory kinda addresses this by only putting them in like half the cars. DIY: Weight reduction/Fix hatch not opening issue Whew and that was just a super quick search of the issues I mentioned let me reiterate: I LOVE MY 370Z!!!!!! stop hating on me! I just feel like there was a lot to fix to make it go from troublesome and unpolished to amazing Most of these fixes are almost free. Some are not Example: Right hand fuel starvation(Fuel Starvation Control Product) Which only effects those of us who drive this car either on the track, or like the kick butt sports car it was born to be, is a THOUSAND bucks to fix! I call that a bit "in the rough", but don't hate on me, mine is fixed, and I love it!
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man.... how much do you want Nissan to sell a base Z for if you want them to put: a light weight flywheel better sway 25 rolls oil-cooler LSD NISMO ECU better clutch better CSC PSS tires more light weight material better audio better quality components.... dude.... please be realistic.... for its price.... what do you want...? it's a USD$30k sports car.... it's not a Ferrari... |
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So what do you consider a "real" sports car.... People want wayyyy too much these days, I just don't get it. Someone said the sports brakes aren't great....wow! Drive my WRX and then tell me how "bad" the brakes are on the Z. Hell my Si had better brakes than my WRX. Last edited by damian_mb; 10-18-2013 at 11:01 AM. |
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a light weight flywheel Same cost as heavy one better sway Same cost as weak one (and not addressed on my post) 25 rolls oil-cooler Now included and only a hundred buck or two from factory would not effect cost much LSD As part of sport package either don't offer a crap one or charge enough to make it worthwhile. Most ppl who need LSD have to buy two. (One installed and one upgraded) NISMO ECU free. just use the Nismo flash. RCU Data is free once developed better clutch Point taken. Though I don't know how expensive it would be to put in a well designed clutch pedal. I doubt it would cost much outside of design cost. (Which cost almost nothing to implement.). (I'd be happy to send them mine to copy for free. Lol) better CSC Point taken. But failure prone OEM cost more in long run than decent OEM would. PSS tires Never addressed in my post. more light weight material Not addressed in my post better audio Not addressed better quality components. Not requested or demanded I think you are just mad that I have insulted your car (I her it I love mine too). That was not my intention tho this is just meant to be a quick reference of easy fixes for new Z owners. Things almost everyone eventually addresses. Don't be mad it's just info for shining up a cool car to make it great.
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Diamond in the rough.
A heavy flywheel makes the car easier to drive. A lightweight flywheel is a pain in the *** to drive with and it's noisy. Nissan didnt design the car for enthusiasts, they designed it for a larger market.
And part of the sales pitch for the Nismo is the increased power. Why would they tune all zs to that level?
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