Bad sales new for z's

UNKNOWN_370

The camaro is the best cruise car out there. Seats so comfy, they feel like sex. Loads of torque and immense steering feedback. Performance related downsides like weight,width and outward visibility don't make it ideal as a performance car. But it handles perfectly for the cruising street driver that loves to hit the throttle and have fun, or maybe go to the track for a few drag races...

The enthusiast can do more with a camaro than what i stated, but that's just where my experience with the Camaro took me.

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Nismodean

Here we go again, why on God's green earth do people always look at the Z and says she needs to go on a diet when in fact the domestic cars are the true fat asses here?!

2013 FORD MUSTANG GT
--------------------------------------Coupe------------------Convertible
HP/TQ--------------------------------420/390----------------420/390
Manual transmission Curb Weight-------3,618-------------------3,735
Automatic transmission Curb Weight----3,675-------------------3,792
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2013 Chevrolet Camaro

HP/TQ--------------------------------426/420--------------400/410
Manual transmission Curb Weight-------3849------------------N/A
Automatic transmission Curb Weight----N/A-------------------3902
Convertible weights not listed, but they're more than a coupe.
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2009-2013 Nissan 370Z

CURB WEIGHTS-------------370Z----------370Z Touring---NISMO 370Z
HP/TQ----------------------332/270-------332/270--------350/276
Manual Transmission---------3,245----------3,291----------3,314
Automatic Transmission------3,283----------3,329----------N/A

It seems rare these days that people have even heard of the concept of power to weight ratio. For that extra 68-88 horsepower you're gaining 289(touring)-362(non touring) lbs MINIMUM and up to 531(touring) - 604 (non touring) lbs! Is it just me or does a gain of less than 100 HP and a gain of up to a quarter of a ton not sound like a good deal?
You want a Mustang or a Camaro? Have at it, but you're going to literally have your cake and EAT IT too! FATTY!

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hadokenuh

Someone has pointed out, the price increase is really the problem. For me, I need both Touring and Sport packs. For 2013, the price is around $40K+. That's too much.

I picked up my 09 (fully loaded with NAV) for 26K about 15 months ago. I wouldn't pay 40K+ for a 2013.

blackcherry20

yeah, I got a 2012 sport for 36k (plus or minus).. that was my price point...max. more than that I was not comfortable with...not rich, just a comfortable income and I could not justify spending 40K+ on a two seat vehicle.

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chops

wow i had no idea the price went up that much. MSRP on a nismo is now 43 almost 44k?!

i know no one pays MSRP, but wow. i think my 2010's MSRP was only 40k. would definitely not pay almost 4k more today, especially since i only paid 35k for mine, new. jesus

kenchan

ok, read the first line "My first car was a 2004 350Z" just told me this kid will not understand the 370Z and why it is the way it is.

Cmike2780

I think you need to look at a lot of things to really know why the sales are so low compared to the 350Z. There was a huge shift in priorities and a lot of performance cars entering the market when the 370Z came out. A big chunk of the target demo was also already filled. Think about it, if you're a fan of the Z and already have a 350 in the garage, it wouldn't be an easy decision to fork over money for a new one during a recession. I'd say the large amount of 350Z sales definitely hindered the overall sales for the 370. They sold something like 150k 350z's overall. It's a nich car and in many way impractical as a two seater. The performance side is subjective, the 370Z was faster than the 09 stang. Nissan just fell asleep since then.

Also a bit unfair to compare a car sales volume in a different segment. It wouldn't make sense to compare the FR-S/BR-Z sales to Boxter,Cayman or Z4 sales for example.

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Bucketlist2012

I have always owned Z's...The 370Z I bought for Looks and the feel of the road when I drive it.

I never see another 370Z on the road, and that is fine by me...Both my Z's are rare to see on the road and I like it that way.

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RoshDawg

Well it looks sexy as hell

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Highway

I'm okay with this article. I never am one to buy a car with a high production number and I do still enjoy the fact that I barely see any around town. I've actually been looking at a car that has less than 1000 built and it's probably not the best for it's money, but I love the looks and handling.

The article doesn't talk about how many Z34's were destroyed in the 2011 tsunami or bring up the fact that Z33 people don't seem to like the Z34 for whatever reason.

kenchan

this article is getting waay too much attention than it deserves.

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my2004Z

Every time Nissan releases a new from-the-ground-up version of the Z and the GT-R they are leading the pack in performance value and practical technology implementation (dual clutch, Syncro Rev Match, quick 7 speed auto, etc) . The 370Z has been out since late 2008 and is nearing the end of its life cycle. For whatever business reason Nissan had to not go with FI or additional displacement, the 370Z is still in the top 99% of cars on the road. I am convinced that a hybrid Z will arrive soon enough with mega-torque numbers and a dual clutch tranny. Everyone else will follow 2-3 years later.

Amuse370z

I laugh everytime someone says they like the 350z more or think the 370z is ugly.

I mean are you blind? This car is a neck breaker.

JungleZ

O god don't even tell me Nissan can touch Honda or Toyota, that's where people go for economy cars, and true sports car guys get porshes not used nissans. The gtr is the only car worth buying.

edub370

dude.... wtf are u talking about

yea honda MADE good sports cars. toyota MADE a good sports car. but guess what?? who's still making sports cars (nissan). who's lot do u fall asleep in immediately when u drive thru it (honda and yoter). honda and toyota have chosen a completely different path. they are in it to sell economy cars and make ridiculous profits. hell, i feel like toyota made the frs/brz solely to get critics of their backs. and u say IF honda made a new sports car or IF toyota made a sports car... sorry dude, but "if's" don't cut it. if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses when they hopped... get my drift..


and i like how u say the gtr is the only car worth buying. thats like saying, well living in the midwest is fine, but if u really cared u would live in the hamptons. I cant afford a $100k gtr!

same logic u used with the porsches. they are GREAT cars. but the only 911 u can get in for the same price as a z is like 2003 996 or u could get a higher mileage cayman s. i should tell all the true sports car guys out there in z06's or m3's that they are ONLY allowed in 911's per your advise.

so my question is, if the gtr is the only car worth buying... why are u sitting here in a z...?

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