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Is it just me? (Life after pulling the steering lock fuse)

Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button. At first,

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Old 05-07-2013, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button.
At first, I thought it was user error; clutch not all the way in, didn't push the button hard enough or long enough. But now, I'm pretty sure that my car takes an extra second or so to wake up post-pulling the steering lock fuse.

Anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes. It is well documented by various users from all configurations. It is not detrimental to the system, just extra diagnostics looking for a signal return that isn't there.
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Ah, thanks.
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I've got a new '13 and at times it takes an extra second or two to get it cranked.
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This is not necessarily related to the ESCL fuse removal. For whatever reason, it seems that it happens more frequently after pulling the fuse (same as my personal experience). But SouthArk has reviewed the electrical diagrams extensively and claims they are unrelated. I'm inclined to believe him, especially when people like Infidel post they are having the same problem in a model that doesn't even have an ESCL.
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I have reviewed the diagrams too, but as I posted, it seems to be looking for a signal return that is no longer there. Either the ECU or the BCM must 'sense' the lack of a signal and is 'thinking' about it...
I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter.
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I've got a new '13 and at times it takes an extra second or two to get it cranked.
DRL Boot up delay. It's normal.
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I have reviewed the diagrams too, but as I posted, it seems to be looking for a signal return that is no longer there. Either the ECU or the BCM must 'sense' the lack of a signal and is 'thinking' about it...
I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter.
This just makes me wonder why it doesn't happen more consistently. I had the exact same experience. Never happened before fuse was removed. But then why is someone in a 2013 having a similar issue? I thought they got rid of the ESCL mid-2011 models
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did this on my z and perfectly normal, no issues so far
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The delay seems to creep up after closing the door without starting the car soon enough.
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good to know because since I swaped in the HR engine , it does take a couple second before the engine start running ! I kept thinking that I messed up some wires somewhere !!! hehe
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Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button.
At first, I thought it was user error; clutch not all the way in, didn't push the button hard enough or long enough. But now, I'm pretty sure that my car takes an extra second or so to wake up post-pulling the steering lock fuse.

Anyone else experiencing this?
As far as I can tell, the delayed start "problem" is not related to disabling the ESCL - too many ppl who have not disabled the ESCL have the same symptoms.

Disabling the ESCL may exacerbate the situation, but reports don't seem to be consistent.

When you disable the ESCL you are only killing power to the microswitches inside the ESCL. There is an electronic module that stays powered and must be present and working (talking to the BCM) for the car to start.

The best theory I've heard for the reason for the delay is that the car is doing some self-diagnostics that, for some unknown reason, are not run before every startup.

In any case, it appears that the delay is not harmful, just annoying.

Try replacing the fuse and see if the delay goes away.

Since the ESCL is an anti-theft device, Nissan is understandably pretty tight-lipped about how it works. All the above is based on the FSM, my personal experience, and what I've read from other users. YMMV
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I pulled mine and it happens intermittently. My 08 Altima did the same and I never disabled the SLU on it so I personally dont think its directly related.
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2011+ no steering lock issues!!
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