Is it just me? (Life after pulling the steering lock fuse)

LunaZ · 05-07-2013, 10:42 AM

Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button.
At first, I thought it was user error; clutch not all the way in, didn't push the button hard enough or long enough. But now, I'm pretty sure that my car takes an extra second or so to wake up post-pulling the steering lock fuse.

Anyone else experiencing this?

wheee! · 05-07-2013, 10:58 AM

Yes. It is well documented by various users from all configurations. It is not detrimental to the system, just extra diagnostics looking for a signal return that isn't there.

LunaZ · 05-07-2013, 10:59 AM

Ah, thanks.

Infidel · 05-07-2013, 11:01 AM

I've got a new '13 and at times it takes an extra second or two to get it cranked.

JARblue · 05-07-2013, 11:09 AM

This is not necessarily related to the ESCL fuse removal. For whatever reason, it seems that it happens more frequently after pulling the fuse (same as my personal experience). But SouthArk has reviewed the electrical diagrams extensively and claims they are unrelated. I'm inclined to believe him, especially when people like Infidel post they are having the same problem in a model that doesn't even have an ESCL.

wheee! · 05-07-2013, 11:17 AM

I have reviewed the diagrams too, but as I posted, it seems to be looking for a signal return that is no longer there. Either the ECU or the BCM must 'sense' the lack of a signal and is 'thinking' about it...
I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-07-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel

I've got a new '13 and at times it takes an extra second or two to get it cranked.

DRL Boot up delay. It's normal.

JARblue · 05-07-2013, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee!

I have reviewed the diagrams too, but as I posted, it seems to be looking for a signal return that is no longer there. Either the ECU or the BCM must 'sense' the lack of a signal and is 'thinking' about it...
I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter.

This just makes me wonder why it doesn't happen more consistently. I had the exact same experience. Never happened before fuse was removed. But then why is someone in a 2013 having a similar issue? I thought they got rid of the ESCL mid-2011 models

tonythetiger · 05-07-2013, 11:31 AM

did this on my z and perfectly normal, no issues so far

DIGItonium · 05-07-2013, 01:12 PM

The delay seems to creep up after closing the door without starting the car soon enough.

Pintsize725 · 05-07-2013, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee!

I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter.

Megan370z · 05-07-2013, 05:33 PM

good to know because since I swaped in the HR engine , it does take a couple second before the engine start running ! I kept thinking that I messed up some wires somewhere !!! hehe

SouthArk370Z · 05-07-2013, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ

Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button.
At first, I thought it was user error; clutch not all the way in, didn't push the button hard enough or long enough. But now, I'm pretty sure that my car takes an extra second or so to wake up post-pulling the steering lock fuse.

Anyone else experiencing this?

As far as I can tell, the delayed start "problem" is not related to disabling the ESCL - too many ppl who have not disabled the ESCL have the same symptoms.

Disabling the ESCL may exacerbate the situation, but reports don't seem to be consistent.

When you disable the ESCL you are only killing power to the microswitches inside the ESCL. There is an electronic module that stays powered and must be present and working (talking to the BCM) for the car to start.

The best theory I've heard for the reason for the delay is that the car is doing some self-diagnostics that, for some unknown reason, are not run before every startup.

In any case, it appears that the delay is not harmful, just annoying.

Try replacing the fuse and see if the delay goes away.

Since the ESCL is an anti-theft device, Nissan is understandably pretty tight-lipped about how it works. All the above is based on the FSM, my personal experience, and what I've read from other users. YMMV

b15 · 05-07-2013, 10:56 PM

I pulled mine and it happens intermittently. My 08 Altima did the same and I never disabled the SLU on it so I personally dont think its directly related.

nmjaxx9 · 05-07-2013, 11:00 PM

2011+ no steering lock issues!!

05-07-2013, 10:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 512	Is it just me? (Life after pulling the steering lock fuse) Ever since I pulled the steering lock fuse, it seems like it takes a couple of seconds for my car to react after I push the red button. At first, I thought it was user error; clutch not all the way in, didn't push the button hard enough or long enough. But now, I'm pretty sure that my car takes an extra second or so to wake up post-pulling the steering lock fuse. Anyone else experiencing this? Pintsize725 likes this. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

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wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Yes. It is well documented by various users from all configurations. It is not detrimental to the system, just extra diagnostics looking for a signal return that isn't there. __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

05-07-2013, 10:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 512	Ah, thanks. __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not.

05-07-2013, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	This is not necessarily related to the ESCL fuse removal. For whatever reason, it seems that it happens more frequently after pulling the fuse (same as my personal experience). But SouthArk has reviewed the electrical diagrams extensively and claims they are unrelated. I'm inclined to believe him, especially when people like Infidel post they are having the same problem in a model that doesn't even have an ESCL. forza370z likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

05-07-2013, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	I have reviewed the diagrams too, but as I posted, it seems to be looking for a signal return that is no longer there. Either the ECU or the BCM must 'sense' the lack of a signal and is 'thinking' about it... I can confirm that I NEVER had a delay issue in the year prior to removing the fuse.... and had it instantly thereafter. 370ZNISMO#704, forza370z and Mitco39 like this. __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

05-07-2013, 11:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 14	I've got a new '13 and at times it takes an extra second or two to get it cranked.

05-07-2013, 11:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	did this on my z and perfectly normal, no issues so far __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

05-07-2013, 01:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	The delay seems to creep up after closing the door without starting the car soon enough. __________________

05-07-2013, 05:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Megan370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 1,156 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 24	good to know because since I swaped in the HR engine , it does take a couple second before the engine start running ! I kept thinking that I messed up some wires somewhere !!! hehe __________________ Megan Journal Click Me ....................One Man Team Motorsport Click Me

05-07-2013, 10:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36571	I pulled mine and it happens intermittently. My 08 Altima did the same and I never disabled the SLU on it so I personally dont think its directly related.

05-07-2013, 11:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 26	2011+ no steering lock issues!!

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