Did the Azztecks die or did people just crush them on purpose out of shame ???

Reminds me of the old AMC days.....Pacers, Gremlins, Hornets, oh My.....

ohh, remember those... :ugh2:

This sale will not likely effect me.

:iagree:

now back on topic.

i still think versa's are buttugly.

Why when there are so many decent looking cars would someone buy a Versa ? MPG ?

You can still have a decent looking car and get MPG....But the same Company that makes the GTR and the 370Z makes the Versa ? Now I AM Confused...

When I was at Nissan getting service, and yes I actually got good service, they had a White and a Black GTR in the showroom...100k I think...No price reduction...

I did not bother to sit in them....I have already spent enough money on depreciating assets last year...

i think when you combine all the ask from that demographic, it is impossible to make a good looking car. function and economy just takes over.

like you add a nice feature, they ask to take it off and just give them a lower price. so you got the least experienced 'experimental' staff designing this thing to save cost, and it turns into a weird looking manatee-gray Target style kinda car... :ugh:

then you got the mag spec racers comparing a versa vs corolla for 0-60 times... :facepalm:

I always just assumed that's what was popular in Japan. I don't suppose anyone knows anyone from there that can comment on that?

To some Cars are just transportation...I can respect that...

To me, I need something I love to drive...

What are you talking about?:confused:

completely :iagree:

if im just looking for transportation i'd get something convenient like a odyesse or something. but for sure as hell i will NOT be enjoying owning or driving it. :shakes head: i would hate it so much i'd probably just lease it, use it, and get another when the time comes.

My gardener drives a 2.5 Altima

+2 I have a hard time, driving anything without a proper suspension and proper gears. In auto, manual or whatever. Suspension, power and gearing has to be right.

is that the new one? the new altima looks better than the previous one for sure.

the previous altima was like ikkkk.... :eekdance:

My wife has the 12 and though the newer one is improved in looks. There's more slop in the suspension, the CVT is loud as shyt. and i enjoy driving the 12 slightly better than the new 13. By the 15 model though, i know the altima improvements will be huge and eclipse my wife's 12 by a good sized margin!!!
That's just the way Nissan does stuff, first 2 or 3 model years are always quirky.

I absolutely loved my 2002 Altima 2.5 SL. It was such a nice car especially for 2002. Heated, power, leather seats. Sun roof, automatic lights, bose 6 cd audio, steering wheel controls.

My mother had a 2007 Altima 2.5 SL, and I didn't really care for her's much. It seems heavier and slower.

yah, that's very true. my G's bose came with a cassette deck.. was the 2nd year model (2004, i wanted the brembo's)... cassette deck? lol my kids dont even know wat that is. :icon17: i did update the HU a while back.

cassette deck ftmfw

2005 altima SE-R was a great car, then was eclipsed by the 2007 3.5se. They should have kept the manual option, but manuals made 20% of sales.

yah, i was saddened to see that the new altima only comes in CVT? :(

:icon17:

They canned the manual in sedans after 2010.

Does that Pioneer HU have a cassette player in it? If not, it's not worth it. :ugh2:

:icon18:

:( oh well. another reason why i'd get the new accord sedan cause MT is available in the 4banger trim.


it has an aux-in so i can hook up my cassette walkman, or my portable MD player... if i wanted. :ugh2:

:iagree: that's what happens to most cars that use to offer manuals. Due to low sales # they are removed or become an "option" that's more expensive than the auto :icon14:

Or what Audi did with the TT:
Base TT = auto w/ paddle shifters
TTS = paddle shifters
TTRS = 6mt manual

:shakes head:

I would like to ask everyone to

PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC!!

Thank You.

Sport package z"s will still be sold at 38k. No new news here

Fixed:thumbsdown:

Well there was a convo about Nissan styling going on, particularly the versa. That was the context.

Nissan really should lower prices on the 370z. I know it would bring a lot more immature drivers, but with price hikes ever new model year and no performance updates, the 370Z has become almost obsolete in its market.

Oh yeah, There's a lot of weird styling coming out of Japan. The cars we get are pretty tame compared to some of the models they keep domestic. But they make quality vehicles none the least. :tup:

I think its less about lowering prices and offering up to date and proper features price to amenity. Z pricing is fine. Performance is unique in the price range as well.

It still has a place. Trust me.

See I've found it to be pretty practical (but then again I don't have kids and have easy access to practical cars). It's fun, different, and there aren't too many of them around depending on where you live. Performance wise... yeah it's not the best at everything but then again that's not its purpose. It does a lot of things well, which I appreciate.

Ultimately the people that like it buy it and the people that don't... don't!

No doubt it's a very competitive market, though. I'm sure Nissan knows they have to make some adjustments to the way they do things with the Z35 to keep it competitive, but for me, the Z34 is giving me what I want.

We're falling right back into justification mode. :facepalm: The ONLY Z forum where justification is needed for owning a Z. :shakes head:

Eh? Pretty sure on every forum there is owners "justify" (aka explain) why they bought the car. Lighten up.

The Armada is in dire need for a makeover. I can't believe they keep prolonging it. That being said, I would mind owning one. I'm glad the Z wasn't on the list.

You have a FULL detailed thread on why you purchased your Z, with pics of the Z and every car you owned the last 4 years. I'm just sayin that due to certain clowns on here that Z bash... when people make justification statements, they jump out of the jungle and start BS. I just didn't want the redundant, comeback for Z justifiers.

Just a sickening cycle on the forum. So pardon me for not bein so light.

Seems like this is all in your head because the discussion shifted that way, I made my "justification" statement, folks agreed, and we continued on. No out of the jungle bs came a about.

This is a discussion forum after all.

And who cares if a few people "bash" the car? You should be secure enough not to give a damn about what a few people think about the car. It shouldn't phase you one bit.

Agree. I bought my Z for a reason and it makes me happy. There will always be haters, so be it. It does get annoying sometimes though