:iagree: My scion xD is a 5mt, the auto version ($500 more expensive but is about 80% of xD's sold) is a 4 speed that will refuse to accelerate. Passing on the highway needs 15 seconds of prep to get up to speed. the 5 mt is much more pleasant to drive and I can have fun in this car :tup:. It's geared well and has enough power to offer great performance for it's price/class.

This made me laugh.

http://www.jayski.com/schemes/aztecpacecar.jpg

i think the wavey :hello: design is what young folks like. im old skool. i dont like waves on the side of my cars. my G has no waves AT ALL. :tup:

when bimmers started introducing those lines on their cars :barf:
then koreans copied it.. :barf:
then low end j-cars copying that trying to win back the poor. :shakes head:

i like accord sedan cause it has modern flat and sleek design. :tup:


you seem to know a lot about them.... :ugh2:

:iagree: i absolutely hate slow AT cars. those sportshift modes are a joke with its slush torque converters.

Half these econo boxes on tame roads with automatics will make you fall asleep behind the wheel. But i've driven some of these econoboxes in manual transmission on the mountains of Puerto Rico!!! Man it's like driving a serious sports car. So much more fun and exciting. I've driven the Toyota Vitz in PR, Mitsubishi lancer, Suzuki Fuego, mini cooper old mazda rx7 from 80's honda civic crx and Corolla. All these cars fairly low hp with manual transmissions felt like beasts on those mountains.
I think it's what those cars are made for. The terrain in Asia is extremely similar to PR. I've driven the auto versions of some of those cars in PR mountains:yawn:

you do realize asia is a pretty big area vs puerto rico...

Ok let me be specific. The mountainous areas of SE Asia.

the sad is i remember being in warren when they rolled out the rendezvous...

I'm ready for the new z! And wasting more money on a lease baby

:icon18: :tup:

be a man and buy it cash.

Buy a mustang and go away... pleeeeaaaaaase??? the BOSS302 forum is calling you.:excited:

Or be 3/4 of a man and finance for ownership of your 302 BOSS.:tup:

Wipe that ugly thought out of your mind. Puke city.

The Aztek design team found a new place of employment. Screwing up rides since 2001.

Come to think of it I think they designed the front end of the Juke as well...

After scrolling down a little further I see Bucketlist knows whats up too :tup:

You might have a point there with age demographics. And :iagree: on the sportsh!t modes in small hp cars.

:tup: some of the cars you mentions were meant to be manual. Their auto counterparts were golf carts in comparison. especially cars like the mini cooper, crx, corolla.

Lol, yeah, it's a joke. They just wanted free press