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natedog37 04-26-2013 01:59 AM

Sport Package?
 
Hey guys, I am sort of poking around the internet for roadsters and I am wondering if there is a way to tell by the VIN if the car has the sport package? Or is there any other way of telling? Thanks for the help.

dP3NGU1N 04-26-2013 02:02 AM

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natedog37 04-26-2013 02:13 AM

Oh thanks man, but what I mean is that just looking at a car I'm not sure if its a sport. Is the only way to get the chin spoiler with the sport pkg or could someone order just that withoutthe pkg? what want are the things that can't be seen like the big brakes and the lsd. Sometimes it seems like the dealer dont know what they have, like when yhey lidt it as an automatic when clearly it's a manual.

dP3NGU1N 04-26-2013 02:14 AM

synchro rev match button is ONLY on sport models. you cannot add it after.

Trips 04-26-2013 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by natedog37 (Post 2286187)
Oh thanks man, but what I mean is that just looking at a car I'm not sure if its a sport. Is the only way to get the chin spoiler with the sport pkg or could someone order just that withoutthe pkg? what want are the things that can't be seen like the big brakes and the lsd. Sometimes it seems like the dealer dont know what they have, like when yhey lidt it as an automatic when clearly it's a manual.

I'm pretty sure the dealer could look up the vin to id how it was ordered.

The other clues are like the member above posted.

The lower chin spoiler, rear spoiler, 19'' rays wheels with the akebono brakes just to name the biggest external differences.

natedog37 04-26-2013 02:21 AM

Yeah, you are right and I do look for that but sometimes I cant see it in the pics. I think I have a pretty good idea with the visual clues, I guess I was hoping to see it in the VIN. Thanks man.

XwChriswX 04-26-2013 07:10 AM

I think since the VIN is generic to brands and manufacturing location, then specific to the serial number of the car, there won't be like a "check the 23rd character, if its an A it's a base model if it's an X it's a sports package" situation. And if they did do something like that, I'd assume it was more in reference to a Base v Touring instead.

GSS138 04-26-2013 10:41 AM

Most obvious is the rear spoiler. Also the big brake rotors.

DEpointfive0 04-26-2013 10:45 AM

Roadster doesn't have a spoiler guys! Lol

OP, vin will not tell you definitively. The dealer looked up my Maxima and said it was "an SV" (touring package) which it wasn't... Oh, and it wasn't "black" either... Lol!!!


Brakes, wheels, SRM button, and the differential will be silver

dP3NGU1N 04-26-2013 12:39 PM

Dealerships are stupid; case in point:

I saw an ad on autotrader put up by a dealership. This is what was listed:
2012 white base sport - 6MT - $32,000

Here's what I saw when I got there:
2010 RED base model - 7AT - $34,000!!!!


WTF? same stock number, same vin number, correct dealership. I actually went outside to check the dealership name to make sure I was at the right place...

kenchan 04-26-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2287062)
Dealerships are stupid; case in point:

I saw an ad on autotrader put up by a dealership. This is what was listed:
2012 white base sport - 6MT - $32,000

Here's what I saw when I got there:
2010 RED base model - 7AT - $34,000!!!!


WTF? same stock number, same vin number, correct dealership. I actually went outside to check the dealership name to make sure I was at the right place...

:rofl2:

cooltoy 04-26-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2286745)
Most obvious is the rear spoiler. Also the big brake rotors.

Those can be added to a base.

XwChriswX 04-26-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2287062)
Dealerships are stupid; case in point:

I saw an ad on autotrader put up by a dealership. This is what was listed:
2012 white base sport - 6MT - $32,000

Here's what I saw when I got there:
2010 RED base model - 7AT - $34,000!!!!


WTF? same stock number, same vin number, correct dealership. I actually went outside to check the dealership name to make sure I was at the right place...

Dealers are stupid. They don't always know what is actually on the lot. Which is why it's best not to ever listen to them, go and check it for yourself. :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltoy (Post 2287142)
Those can be added to a base.

The Sport Brakes cannot be added to a base. If it has the Sport Brakes, it is a Sport Package.

dP3NGU1N 04-26-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2287171)
The Sport Brakes cannot be added to a base. If it has the Sport Brakes, it is a Sport Package.

Really? Haven't people swapped base brakes for the sport ones on the forum? I mean assuming he's looking at a used car - a new one would never come with the sport brakes if it's not a sport model.

XwChriswX 04-26-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2287184)
Really? Haven't people swapped base brakes for the sport ones on the forum? I mean assuming he's looking at a used car - a new one would never come with the sport brakes if it's not a sport model.

Well yeah, people have done it Aftermarket, of course. I thought we were talking about a New Z, not a Used Z? New from the factory Base models will Not have Sport Brakes.

forza370z 04-26-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2287171)
Dealers are stupid. They don't always know what is actually on the lot. Which is why it's best not to ever listen to them, go and check it for yourself. :tup:



The Sport Brakes cannot be added to a base. If it has the Sport Brakes, it is a Sport Package.

Well it can. But you need to change to the sport 19" wheels or other aftermarket wheels that can clear the BBK.

OP, only 2 things that can pretty much identifying a sport pkg.

1. The SyncroRev Match button near the shifter if it's a 6 speed manual. I've never seen anyone has added this feature on a base so far.

2. VIN. Because the Vin number is what dealer used to order the parts from Nissan if your car needs to be fixed. It will(should) be able to tell you if it's a base, sport or nismo.

forza370z 04-26-2013 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2286760)
Roadster doesn't have a spoiler guys! Lol

OP, vin will not tell you definitively. The dealer looked up my Maxima and said it was "an SV" (touring package) which it wasn't... Oh, and it wasn't "black" either... Lol!!!


Brakes, wheels, SRM button, and the differential will be silver

:icon18::icon18::icon18: Next time when I see a homeless, I will suggest him try to apply a job at a car dealership. Coz it seems anyone can get that job even with negative IQ.:roflpuke2:

CDepp 04-26-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2287195)
Well it can. But you need to change to the sport 19" wheels or other aftermarket wheels that can clear the BBK.

OP, only 2 things that can pretty much identifying a sport pkg.

1. The SyncroRev Match button near the shifter if it's a 6 speed manual. I've never seen anyone has added this feature on a base so far.

:iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2287195)
2. VIN. Because the Vin number is what dealer used to order the parts from Nissan if your car needs to be fixed. It will(should) be able to tell you if it's a base, sport or nismo.

:shakes head:
What character would it be? Reference

I believe the VIN is coded like any other manufacturing serial number: It's a blank number linked to a product during manufacturing. Once production is complete, the VIN would be released to a database holding all the information about the car (trim, color, options, etc). Which could be why DE5.0's Maxima would be off if a salesperson or tech went in and checked some option or changed it on when they shouldn't have.

forza370z 04-26-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2287989)
:shakes head:
What character would it be? Reference

I believe the VIN is coded like any other manufacturing serial number: It's a blank number linked to a product during manufacturing. Once production is complete, the VIN would be released to a database holding all the information about the car (trim, color, options, etc). Which could be why DE5.0's Maxima would be off if a salesperson or tech went in and checked some option or changed it on when they shouldn't have.

I am not sure which part of the VIN represent what model/package the z is. But I think dealership can pull the vehicle information out of the database by VIN and order the right parts for your car. For example if my exhaust pipe got bent and needed to get replaced, they will order the nismo exhaust not the regular exhaust for me and all they need is the VIN.

diddy535 04-26-2013 10:53 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-decoding.html

That's the vin broken down. I agree with all the others, just look for the aesthetic differences. I don't think you can tell the difference based on the vin. GL OP

natedog37 04-27-2013 01:32 AM

Thanks for all the info guys, now all I have to do is find the "perfect" Z!
Cheers!

CDepp 04-27-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natedog37 (Post 2288192)
Thanks for all the info guys, now all I have to do is find the "perfect" Z!
Cheers!

It will never be perfect until after you own it. Once you own it, that's when it's the 'perfect Z'.

There are plenty of potentials out there! GL!

XwChriswX 04-28-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2287195)
Well it can. But you need to change to the sport 19" wheels or other aftermarket wheels that can clear the BBK.

OP, only 2 things that can pretty much identifying a sport pkg.

1. The SyncroRev Match button near the shifter if it's a 6 speed manual. I've never seen anyone has added this feature on a base so far.

2. VIN. Because the Vin number is what dealer used to order the parts from Nissan if your car needs to be fixed. It will(should) be able to tell you if it's a base, sport or nismo.

Apparently you didn't see this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2287187)
Well yeah, people have done it Aftermarket, of course. I thought we were talking about a New Z, not a Used Z? New from the factory Base models will Not have Sport Brakes.

If you're buying a new Z from the dealer, if it has sport wheels, it's a sport package. If it doesn't, it is not. It's that simple.

And the VIN does not tell you what model it is. If it did, there would need to be another character added to the VIN aside from the normal number of characters for this...

Base
Base + Sport
Touring
Touring + Sport
Touring + Sport + Nav
Nismo
Nismo + Touring?
And now Nismo + Nav

Maybe if they take the last five, the serial number, and use that only it might be able to bring up more specifics of your car. But that is an individual number, not a special character to identify all cars of that model.

forza370z 04-28-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2290210)
Apparently you didn't see this post:



If you're buying a new Z from the dealer, if it has sport wheels, it's a sport package. If it doesn't, it is not. It's that simple.

And the VIN does not tell you what model it is. If it did, there would need to be another character added to the VIN aside from the normal number of characters for this...

Base
Base + Sport
Touring
Touring + Sport
Touring + Sport + Nav
Nismo
Nismo + Touring?
And now Nismo + Nav

Maybe if they take the last five, the serial number, and use that only it might be able to bring up more specifics of your car. But that is an individual number, not a special character to identify all cars of that model.

Yeah sorry. I didn't read that post or didn't notice it was you...

As for the VIN, I think yes you can't tell what model your z is just from the VIN itself. What I was trying to say is, the VIN rather is the key to the database that holds the information on your vehicle that will tell you what model the z is.

XwChriswX 04-29-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2290263)
Yeah sorry. I didn't read that post or didn't notice it was you...

As for the VIN, I think yes you can't tell what model your z is just from the VIN itself. What I was trying to say is, the VIN rather is the key to the database that holds the information on your vehicle that will tell you what model the z is.

No worries. :tiphat:


I'm not sure if it does, because I've given dealers the VIN before, and they still ask me "Is it a base? Touring? With Sport package?" :ugh2:

Maybe they're just incompetent. :icon17:


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