Can you guys tell me if your Z does this?

mbowler · 04-24-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ

The fact that the you said the car was fine before the curbing incident tells me that there's something that has been overlooked after the repair was made to the swing arm and new wheel/tire installed. Sorry if I'm repeating what was already said/asked but did they take it for a test drive? If you're still not satisfied with the work being done at your Z dealership, I would take it to another. Lord knows I have taken mine to more than one!
IMHO... something's being missed!

I think I'm going to look around for a new place. I just wanted to maintain the relationship. I agree, it's clearly related to the incident and I've told them I want it done right, not fast or cheap. They have test driven it. I even asked if someone could take it home with them.

phohman · 04-24-2013, 04:49 PM

Have U tried to change the rear tire or tire set w another good working set?
The damaged side/rim may have also separated a radial in the tire but not visable on the outside of the tire. U said the rim was replaced, was the tire bad too?

JohnsZ · 04-24-2013, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mbowler

I think I'm going to look around for a new place. I just wanted to maintain the relationship. I agree, it's clearly related to the incident and I've told them I want it done right, not fast or cheap. They have test driven it. I even asked if someone could take it home with them.

mbowler · 04-24-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by phohman

Have U tried to change the rear tire or tire set w another good working set?
The damaged side/rim may have also separated a radial in the tire but not visable on the outside of the tire. U said the rim was replaced, was the tire bad too?

The service manager I dealt with said the tire was ok after they took it off and inspected it. I have no reason to not believe them.

I unfortunately don't have a way of swapping out for known good set unless the dealer had an extra set laying around. They haven't yet offered but I will suggest this.

my2004Z · 04-24-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

like people aren't too stupid hopefully....(?)

I find that people tend to leave out critical details when troubleshooting. It's just like going to the doctor. Tell them everything that is going on so that they can track down the problem. It is not a case of stupidity but rather forgetfulness.

Haboob · 04-24-2013, 08:09 PM

I didn't notice anything like that on my way home.

I made a left turn (one-way to one-way, so it was 90 degrees) and it centered itself like it does turning right (as you said it did for you when turning right as well).

alcheng · 04-25-2013, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mbowler

The service manager I dealt with said the tire was ok after they took it off and inspected it. I have no reason to not believe them.

I unfortunately don't have a way of swapping out for known good set unless the dealer had an extra set laying around. They haven't yet offered but I will suggest this.

Can you swap the left tires to the right and vice versa?

But don't swap both F&B at the same time, swap one after another.

At least you can find out is it the tires/wheels.

mbowler · 04-25-2013, 07:35 AM

I'm going to pick the car up today/tomorrow and then I'll try swapping wheels. I live 45 miles from dealership, so it's a pain coordinating a ride.

Luciano13 · 04-25-2013, 09:11 AM

Get an alignment done, if u haven't already.

wstar · 04-25-2013, 09:16 AM

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I've had the car in 3 times for this and every time I get the same story. "It's normal". "It's road crown". "It's aligned". When I got the car It did not feel this way. I hit a curb with the back wheel and replaced the back wheel and the lower swing arm, but it has never felt the same since. They even put it on an alignment rack and measured it and it aligns perfectly with the Nissan specs. I have the printout to prove it.

It's pretty much gotta be from this, and most importantly go elsewhere for another opinion. What is this "swing arm" that needed to be replaced? Anything more than minor rim/tire damage sounds a lot worse than just a mild curb hit, sounds like a real incident.

Take it to a reputable independent alignment shop and have them check all 4 wheels closely + thrust angle. Tell them there were repairs in that one corner and you need them to verify nothing's fundamentally wrong there.

radarlove · 04-25-2013, 11:00 AM

How bizarre you mention this. I just started driving mine last week and also noticed the slight left-hand pull. And I haven't hit any curbs... although the potholes are hella bad, but I haven't hit any hard enough to be what I would consider damaging. So I too am very puzzled to why the car is doing this. It was fine last fall, perfect straight tracking with centered steering wheel.

Cmike2780 · 04-25-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by radarlove

How bizarre you mention this. I just started driving mine last week and also noticed the slight left-hand pull. And I haven't hit any curbs... although the potholes are hella bad, but I haven't hit any hard enough to be what I would consider damaging. So I too am very puzzled to why the car is doing this. It was fine last fall, perfect straight tracking with centered steering wheel.

I think your issue might just be with the alignment or road crown. There was this TSB a few years ago. It was a general TSB which may help you and the OP.

kidkotic2001 · 04-25-2013, 12:21 PM

So I did a check today and I did not see that my Z was going to the left when I slightly griped the steering wheel. I also tried completely letting go of the steering wheel at a park close by and my car went strait except when I hit the brake pretty hard then it did lean to the left a lot.

kenchan · 04-25-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by my2004Z

I find that people tend to leave out critical details when troubleshooting. It's just like going to the doctor. Tell them everything that is going on so that they can track down the problem. It is not a case of stupidity but rather forgetfulness.

you're a nice guy.

PapoZalsa · 04-25-2013, 05:44 PM

Even if the problem is fixed the OP really need to find out the root cause of the problem ....

But my old school mind tells me alignment problems like somes had already said for some type of reason...

Some theories about what route the car should follow when the steering wheel is let go I had never heard before.

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mbowler Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St Louis Posts: 73 Drives: '12 370z PW M6 Rep Power: 13	I'm going to pick the car up today/tomorrow and then I'll try swapping wheels. I live 45 miles from dealership, so it's a pain coordinating a ride. __________________ 2012 PW 6MT Touring, Sport, Nav, Persimmon Performance Clutch Helper Spring - K&N Panel Filters - Z1 Post MAF Tubes Appearance 3M Carbon Fiber Di-Noc Rear Diffuser - Dual Element Rear Foglight - GTR Ignition Button - Xpel Self-Healing Film - Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 Audio/Visual Car Kit Co Bypass Kit

04-25-2013, 09:11 AM	#39 (permalink)
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04-25-2013, 11:00 AM	#41 (permalink)
radarlove Base Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: close to Edmonton Posts: 30 Drives: 12 black tour spt AT Rep Power: 12	How bizarre you mention this. I just started driving mine last week and also noticed the slight left-hand pull. And I haven't hit any curbs... although the potholes are hella bad, but I haven't hit any hard enough to be what I would consider damaging. So I too am very puzzled to why the car is doing this. It was fine last fall, perfect straight tracking with centered steering wheel. __________________ 370Z for go fast 08 Caliber SRT for winter

04-25-2013, 12:21 PM	#43 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	So I did a check today and I did not see that my Z was going to the left when I slightly griped the steering wheel. I also tried completely letting go of the steering wheel at a park close by and my car went strait except when I hit the brake pretty hard then it did lean to the left a lot. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

04-24-2013, 08:09 PM	#36 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	I didn't notice anything like that on my way home. I made a left turn (one-way to one-way, so it was 90 degrees) and it centered itself like it does turning right (as you said it did for you when turning right as well).

04-25-2013, 05:44 PM	#45 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	Even if the problem is fixed the OP really need to find out the root cause of the problem .... But my old school mind tells me alignment problems like somes had already said for some type of reason... Some theories about what route the car should follow when the steering wheel is let go I had never heard before. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

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