Is the Z NOT a tuner friendly car?

diddy535 · 04-22-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I can shift fast too, but I don't like clunky sounds and sloppy manual like this car. You basically have to have a perfect launch to no get smoked by a Toyota Camry v6.

Nissan should take notes from Honda on how to get a butter smooth stick shift

This problem cn be solved with the RJM clutch pedal.

obito · 04-22-2013, 03:02 PM

you are comparing NA with Turbo cars. It is just like you are comparing Blonde to Asian. They are totally different phase. I think if you slam money high enough. You would enjoy it. or save up money and GT-R FTW

Cmike2780 · 04-22-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I can shift fast too, but I don't like clunky sounds and sloppy manual like this car. You basically have to have a perfect launch to no get smoked by a Toyota Camry v6.

Nissan should take notes from Honda on how to get a butter smooth stick shift

It could certainly be smoother, but it's really not that bad.

No offense, but you'd have to be pretty terrible or new to a manual transmissions to get "smoked" by a Camry even with the Z's clunks and wirls. It's got some annoying sounds, but I've never had trouble shifting quickly once I got a feel for when to shift properly with this car. The 1-2 shift is tricky, but that's just about any car with a manual.

SS_Firehawk · 04-22-2013, 03:08 PM

Regarding VVEL, it's not holding back the turbo cars, it's the supercharged cars with aftermarket exhausts and headers that are breathing too well. Watching boost ramp on on a 370Z is nearly the same instant gratification of a NA or twin screw. Turbo cams are starting to look more and more like NA ones. Blower cams on the other hand are much different. And just like everyone stated, turbo cars make more power from bolt ons period. Don't expect big numbers on a car pushing nearly 100hp per liter. The fact we can squeeze 50whp from bolt on mods is surprising. Pushing 500+whp on a stock block and maintain reliability... on a NA motor is impressive. I think BigT's arguments are shallow.

JungleZ · 04-22-2013, 03:13 PM

What about the rough coarse engine after 5k rpm, why is it so dam rough and linear. I know this car isn't a torque monster but the autos i drove have way more umphh on throttle response.

lemon-fresh · 04-22-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

What about the rough coarse engine after 5k rpm, why is it so dam rough and linear. I know this car isn't a torque monster but the autos i drove have way more umphh on throttle response.

I don't think linear power delivery is necessarily a negative thing. Engine does sound scary past 5kRPM.

Yea, auto's are very easy to drive you should probably just make the switch and leave those tricky manuals to the pros.

SS_Firehawk · 04-22-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

What about the rough coarse engine after 5k rpm, why is it so dam rough and linear. I know this car isn't a torque monster but the autos i drove have way more umphh on throttle response.

That went away with a proper exhaust mod. Throttle response is ECU related, not an engine problem. VVEL improves throttle response. I happen to like that the shift knob shakes, brings back memories of old school muscle

diddy535 · 04-22-2013, 03:20 PM

Plus you're comparing a 7speed to a 6speed with different gear ratios

forza370z · 04-22-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

What about the rough coarse engine after 5k rpm, why is it so dam rough and linear. I know this car isn't a torque monster but the autos i drove have way more umphh on throttle response.

If you drive an auto and stomp on gas, it automatically downshifts thus give you an illusion it gets more torque then a manual. It's all about the proper gears at proper speed. I tried an auto in manual mode and put it in higher gears and the car just doesn't go.

Also keep in mind, auto has 7 gears instead of 6 gears. You gotta consider the gear ratio as well.

Mitco39 · 04-22-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I can shift fast too, but I don't like clunky sounds and sloppy manual like this car. You basically have to have a perfect launch to no get smoked by a Toyota Camry v6.

Nissan should take notes from Honda on how to get a butter smooth stick shift

I dunno how your driving but no Camry would come close to me on a launch. Its all about controlling wheel spin.

6MT · 04-22-2013, 03:24 PM

Gauge · 04-22-2013, 03:30 PM

To keep it on topic, one point that makes this car not tuner friendly is the insane money necessary to do so.

jcosta79 · 04-22-2013, 03:35 PM

I'm not sure why the OP says the Z is not "tuner friendly". My car picked up roughly 40 HP with 2 simple bolt-ons and a tune.

jcosta79 · 04-22-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

To keep it on topic, one point that makes this car not tuner friendly is the insane money necessary to do so.

Define "insane".

CDepp · 04-22-2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge

To keep it on topic, one point that makes this car not tuner friendly is the insane money necessary to do so.

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Originally Posted by jcosta79

Define "insane".

Define 'money'.

04-22-2013, 03:02 PM	#62 (permalink)
obito Base Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 94 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 13	you are comparing NA with Turbo cars. It is just like you are comparing Blonde to Asian. They are totally different phase. I think if you slam money high enough. You would enjoy it. or save up money and GT-R FTW Spikuh likes this.

04-22-2013, 03:08 PM	#64 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Regarding VVEL, it's not holding back the turbo cars, it's the supercharged cars with aftermarket exhausts and headers that are breathing too well. Watching boost ramp on on a 370Z is nearly the same instant gratification of a NA or twin screw. Turbo cams are starting to look more and more like NA ones. Blower cams on the other hand are much different. And just like everyone stated, turbo cars make more power from bolt ons period. Don't expect big numbers on a car pushing nearly 100hp per liter. The fact we can squeeze 50whp from bolt on mods is surprising. Pushing 500+whp on a stock block and maintain reliability... on a NA motor is impressive. I think BigT's arguments are shallow. AlexRaymond19 likes this. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

04-22-2013, 03:20 PM	#68 (permalink)
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04-22-2013, 03:30 PM	#72 (permalink)
Gauge Track Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Madison WI Posts: 867 Drives: 2012 370Z Nismo PW Rep Power: 15	To keep it on topic, one point that makes this car not tuner friendly is the insane money necessary to do so. obito likes this. __________________ I am a demon bolt slayer.

04-22-2013, 03:13 PM	#65 (permalink)
JungleZ Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: orange county,ca Posts: 652 Drives: leased base z... Rep Power: 0	What about the rough coarse engine after 5k rpm, why is it so dam rough and linear. I know this car isn't a torque monster but the autos i drove have way more umphh on throttle response.

04-22-2013, 03:35 PM	#73 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 15	I'm not sure why the OP says the Z is not "tuner friendly". My car picked up roughly 40 HP with 2 simple bolt-ons and a tune. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

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