Is the Z NOT a tuner friendly car?

1st

Another regret thread?

Apoc370z

****, i thought i bought a sports car..

Drex

what makes evo's, sti's and brz/frs pro-tuner and the z anti-tuner? you went on a whole rant to make this point with nothing to back it up.

manual trans is slow shifting? sounds like user error
auto trans can't take high power and isn't a much more expensive dct? meh
VVEL can't be programed? this is your only point?

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speedfreek

A little research before you bought the car would have gone a long way on this front.

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Haboob

Yeah, if you're a little old woman.

Nissan misled me greatly.






And OP, dyno numbers not proving anything? What other kind of proof do you want? Butt-dyno results?

BigT

Wow, I wasn't expecting everyone to get so hurt over my thread. I do own a Z. It is modified. I enjoy modifying it, like any other car I would have owned. This thread did not go in the direction I was intending it to go. I'm sorry for hurting all of your feelings. lol wow

I think i'm going through what everyone else did when they switched to a mustang.

mike12002us

OP why dont you tell us exactly what your wanting out of the car?? how is it not a tuner? just trying to understand.

Haboob

Same here, I'm just confused. Specifics are needed, because last I checked this car was modifiable, tunable, etc.

Frankly, I'm upset that I had to modify it. Could have saved me some $$ if it was all done from the factory!! jk

Cmike2780

Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck does "tuner friendly" suppose mean? I mean, by most tuners definition, a silly looking Civic is considered the most tuner friendly car. I think the whole gripe here is money. The Z is expensive to mod. By the way, I've heard a few Evo owners who have come to realize that Mitsubishi isn't too forgiving when it comes to aftermarket upgrades and warranty work..

I'm honestly trying to keep an open mind, but I just don't understand this thread. Maybe I'm misreading it? The Z is on par or better with the Evo, Sti and leaps ahead of BRZ/FRS in terms of performance in stock form. Modified, it's about how much money you have in your bank account. As you pointed out with the BRZ/FRS, it's not about hp numbers. So how about track times? If you actually did some home work, you'd see that it's on Par with the Evo & Sti.....and knocks the BRZ/FRS off the track. The only limitation I see is how much you're willing to spend to make it the car you want it to be.

As a side note. You'll likely spend the same amount to get a BRZ/FRS to the same level of performance as a new Z.

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Mitco39

Fact of it is this thread is full of whats bad about the car without anything to back it up. Not tuner friendly, cant put out the power of a HR because of the VVEL. Everything you said was garbage.

What direction were you intending the thread to go?

That being said there are weak points to the car that have been discussed numerous times. Even if it was a bit of a repost mentioning these in your reasons may have left you with a bit more credibility on the forum.

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BigT

Its tough for me to explain it seems. lol

My evo X had 370whp, bolt ons and tune only. My evo 8 had 420 whp with a small 20g turbo. My DSM also had 400whp with a 20g turbo. All built and tuned by myself. Those cars responded so well to mods, handled and drove so FUN. Also, they were great starting platforms. Go to any auto-x, road coarse, or drag strip and these cars can compete with the best of them.

Now, I wanted something new to start with. Part out and trade in my last evo, the 8, and purchased a Z. This is just slightly over a year ago. The Z is a great car. I truelly enjoy it, more than just for its performance. The motor is so smooth. The ride is surprisingly very good. (try driving an Evo or STI, the Z is a BMW compared to those) The car is fantastic. It even gets great gas mileage. I'm contemplating keeping this car for a while, a long while.

I'm getting married in September. I have an appointment with Ignition Motorsports to install a Stillen supercharger in October. But, now i'm wondering if its even worth it. A stock turbo Evo will run circles around this car. The Z performs WELL in so many ways, but it does nothing GREATLY.

I've come to this conclusion. I either need to get my priorities straight and decide what I want from this car. Or move on.

mike12002us

I wouldnt say it runs cirlces around the Z.

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BigT

Thank you for keeping an open mind with my posts. But, do you really think a modded Z is keeping up with modded Evo's and STI's? (honest question)

I wish I could throw in the GTR or Z06 into my conversation, but those cars are out of my league.