First potential problem?

xDIEGOx · 12-13-2008, 06:24 PM

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Well MCR have put a solid 600km on their new Z already figuring out how it goes and what needs improvement and a list is already drawn up.

First up is full coilover replacements from Endless. These Endless Zeal coilovers offer full front and rear height asjustability as well as damper adjustment. Once on, the suspension is tweaked to MCR’s specifications. Enkei GTC01 wheels in 18×9.5+38 front and 18×10+22 rear sizes wrapped in Yokohama NEOVA tires are fitted also to complete the footwork modifications.

During hard driving, MCR has noted that the engine oil temp climbs rapidly. If it reaches 135°C the ECU lowers the rev limit to 5900 rpm temporarily. To combat this MCR worked with long time partner ARC to come up with an engine oil cooler. A rear differential oil cooler kit is also planned. A Z33 Nismo LSD completes the rear diff work.

370zblog.com

That's 275 degrees F on a pretty much stock car.

Discuss.

nogoodname · 12-13-2008, 06:25 PM

damn...the Z's have limp mode built in also, like the G's

Slidefox · 12-13-2008, 06:25 PM

I believe Mines installed an oil cooler

Edit: ARC now working on parts for the 370!!!

shumby · 12-13-2008, 06:26 PM

ya oil cooler should fix it same issue as the 335I had

azn370z · 12-13-2008, 06:34 PM

This won't be a problem for me since I have never tracked my car nor do I ever plan too. But yes the g37 has the same problem.

AK370Z · 12-13-2008, 07:00 PM

This indeed is a problem. I was talking about it in the other thread. MCR is working on a solution for this. I hope they come out with a reliable solution. Namir posted in his other post that STILLEN is also working on it.

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

I think it is. BTW, I should also mention that they kept saying something about when oil temparature reached 130 C it goes into fail-safe mode?

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Originally Posted by Namir

Aw bummer, I heard the G37 gets limp mode too.

I think it limits revs to 5-6k or something. I can't remember details but I remember some people complaining about it on MyG37.

It looks like an oil cooler will be a necessary upgrade for any one interested in tracking?

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Originally Posted by Namir

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Apparently Stillen is working on one for the VQ37 thanks to the G37 guys. Should probably work for the 370Z too I assume?

"TORQUE CUT CONTROL (AT HIGH ENGINE OIL TEMPERATURE)
ECM receives engine oil temperature signal from engine oil temperature sensor.
To avoid VVEL performance, ECM performs the engine torque cut control at high engine oil temperature.
If engine oil temperature is too high, engine oil viscosity will change. As a result, engine oil pressure is
decreased. This control is to control the VVEL operating angle by operating the VVEL actuator sub assembly.
If this control is operated, engine performance will decrease, then maximum engine speed is reduced a little,
for example.
NOTE:
If the engine oil temperature sensor is deteriorated, its characteristic will change.
In this case, the operating temperature for engine torque cut control might be decrease.
Perform Component Inspection of the engine oil temperature sensor to check for the deterioration.
Refer to EC-248, "Component Inspection". "

This is from another thread.

xDIEGOx · 12-13-2008, 07:07 PM

This isn't a problem that aftermarket companies should be fixing...

shumby · 12-13-2008, 07:07 PM

yes stillen is suposed to be close for the G37S. thanks for reminding me I got to call them.

SnakeBitten · 12-13-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xDIEGOx

This isn't a problem that aftermarket companies should be fixing...

I have to agree. Sounds like something Nissan should take care of. Kinda early but maybe Ill just wait till the car is out a bit before jumping into it.

Ryephile · 12-13-2008, 09:00 PM

This concern sounds very similar to the issues that the BMW 135i and 335i guys are having with heavy abuse; overheated oil temps. A well placed oil cooler should do the trick. It would've been better if Nissan spent a bit more $$$ in the Sport Package and had an oil cooler part of that package, IMO.

shumby · 12-13-2008, 10:05 PM

+1

18rgcelica73 · 12-13-2008, 10:31 PM

Damn this sucks deffinitely nissan should be taking care of this problem. With an oil cooler after market would that then void the factory warranty? I plan on DRIVING mine and babying it as well, but the last thing I need is for the cut to happen in the middle of the strip.

shumby · 12-13-2008, 10:33 PM

^^^ if you warrenty is an issue get the stillen one as it will not void warrenty. They still got to prove the oil coller caused the failure.

frost · 12-14-2008, 02:00 PM

I wonder where the temperature is where they are tracking. Tracking in a mild environment may be the same as commuting in Phoenix. Last thing I want is to be on the I-10 in heavy traffic when it's 120 outside and the car can't handle it. Nor do I think I should have to buy aftermarket parts for the car to do what it's supposed to do.

xDIEGOx · 12-14-2008, 02:22 PM

^ Well it is winter...

12-13-2008, 06:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
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12-13-2008, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	ya oil cooler should fix it same issue as the 335I had __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	This won't be a problem for me since I have never tracked my car nor do I ever plan too. But yes the g37 has the same problem. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

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shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	yes stillen is suposed to be close for the G37S. thanks for reminding me I got to call them. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	damn...the Z's have limp mode built in also, like the G's

12-13-2008, 09:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ryephile Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Metro-Detroit Posts: 23 Drives: '02 Cooper S Rep Power: 17	This concern sounds very similar to the issues that the BMW 135i and 335i guys are having with heavy abuse; overheated oil temps. A well placed oil cooler should do the trick. It would've been better if Nissan spent a bit more $$$ in the Sport Package and had an oil cooler part of that package, IMO. __________________

12-13-2008, 10:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	+1 __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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18rgcelica73 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fresno Posts: 330 Drives: 03 ep3 vbp 6speed Rep Power: 17	Damn this sucks deffinitely nissan should be taking care of this problem. With an oil cooler after market would that then void the factory warranty? I plan on DRIVING mine and babying it as well, but the last thing I need is for the cut to happen in the middle of the strip. __________________ I have a 350rwhp 1973 18rg turbo powered Toyota celica, a 2003 civic si which will be my down payment for a beautiful MONTEREY BLUE 370z. THE370Z.COM F'IN RULES!

12-13-2008, 10:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	^^^ if you warrenty is an issue get the stillen one as it will not void warrenty. They still got to prove the oil coller caused the failure. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

12-14-2008, 02:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	I wonder where the temperature is where they are tracking. Tracking in a mild environment may be the same as commuting in Phoenix. Last thing I want is to be on the I-10 in heavy traffic when it's 120 outside and the car can't handle it. Nor do I think I should have to buy aftermarket parts for the car to do what it's supposed to do.

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xDIEGOx Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 377 Drives: 02 Ram 4x4 Rep Power: 232	^ Well it is winter... __________________ Wanna see every Top Gear episode? Click --->Top Gear