EVO-R vs OEM Rear Fog
 

Which one matches the tail lights more closely, in brightness and looks?

If someone has run both, or maybe seen both in person and can chime in.

Like, if you run it ON with tail lights ON, and run it brighter with brakes depressed, which fog matches the tail lights better?

Assuming this is how it'll behave if you wire it to tail/brake lights.


Tapatalk2 ...

My EVO-R is not very bright at all.....:rolleyes:

Depending on how you wire it, the oem light will definitely brighter than the evo r led. But i think the evo r fot light matches our led tails better.

Now i am not sure if you can wire evo r's fog light to the break and tail lights. I needed to buy a dfferent bulb for that function (oem light)

Ok thanks for the confirmation. From all the threads I read it seemed like evo-r fog is a better match to the tails, just want to be sure.

Time to read some more to see how to get it to behave like another tail/brake light.


Tapatalk2 ...

With a little modification to a 7443 bulb, the oem is a perfect match.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7...d7c72490_z.jpg


http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7...2ca01218_m.jpg

The 7440 is 25 watts and is too bright. The outer contacts on a 7443 are also too bright as that's the 25watt brake light on many cars. Bend the outer red marked contacts back and forth until they break off. Bend the inner green contacts over to where the outer contacts used to be. Voila, a 5 watt 7440 that matches the tails. Of course this way it doesn't get brighter when the brakes are applied.

Nice hack!

Hey, so is that a OEM fog from Z1 for example? You just hack the bulb then wire it up to the break lights?


Tapatalk2 ...

I wired the EVOR light into my tail lights.. It came with a diagram....

Hey Wonka. With that wiring does the EVOR act just like the tail/brake lights? OFF or ON, or brighter when braking?


Tapatalk2 ...

It would be pretty easy to wire the EVO-R to the tail lights. You could wire the blink function to brakes. I posted a DIY awhile back, although I used switch power for the solid on and tied the blink function to the reverse lights. Still, the wires for the tail lights and brake lights are in the same harness.

I agree with Wonka, the EVO-R LEDs are not that bright. Practically invisible in daylight.

Why would you want a dim fog light? It's considered a safety item for fog as it's very bright and visible through dense fog. Trying to mimic it would be to go brighter. Making it dim makes it appear, maybe just to me, that the attempt was made with a cheap alternative to the real deal.

Now, doing something different with that spot has a different effect. So, if you have it strobe/flash like a formula brake and never stay solid, that would be cool and no longer a 'fog' light.

Thanks Dave. I hadn't come across you DIY yet. I'll look it up. There's a lot of threads on it for sure, that's where I got the idea that some folks think it's too bright.


Tapatalk2 ...

Being in SoCal it's all for looks not fog safety. I agree you can do a lot of different things with that light. For me it's just about replacing the cheap looking plastic cover with an actual light, and for looks, balance mainly, matching it's brightness with the ON taillights. If I can do brake brighter, I'll throw that in but it's not a deal breaker.

I don't think a fog, modified to match the tail lights in brightness tends towards the cheapness of the plastic plate. An
apple doesn't tend towards an orange. It's apple and oranges.


Tapatalk2 ...

Disagree. 100% disagree, the tint isn't the same, that's why I didn't get it.
The OEM one is OEM, and matches perfectly

I have the Smoked EVO-R fog light on my Black Z so it blends in until the light is on. :tup: No ugly red butthole. It is Plenty bright at night when it's blinking. I have it wired to come on with my headlights and blink on braking. Love it.

As for blending with OEMs, I think the LEDs match the LED taillights better than an OEM bulb, but that's just me.

Sir, i am talking about the led matching the led on our tails, how dare you disagree with me!!

This is an outrage!

Lols. Nah, good info. So I can haz the tint of the OEM, with LEDs of the EVOR and perceived brightness of the tail lights, by buying both and hacking away.

I think I'll just go OEM for cost, cuz I slightly favor tweak-able brightness over LEDs for the butthole of the Z. :)


Tapatalk2 ...

You only plan to drive in SoCal? :rolleyes:
To me, again, having a dim light where a bright light goes seems cheap. Maybe it's just me, but it appears that the attempt was made, but not met, to make the device look like a fog lamp. Then again, I've been driving all over, including much of EU in the past, and I expect to see more things that what's only inclusive to SoCal.
I would look at a Z with an actual fog lamp, and one with a dim fog light, and think to myself, "What's wrong with the Z with the dim fog"?
If I saw two Z's and one had a strobe-brake light effect and no constant-on illumination, and one with a standard fog, I would think to myself, "Wow! they really did something different with the fog light area".

So, I guess if you never leave SoCal, a dim fog lamp may be just the thing for you.

:inoutroflpuke:

EDIT: Go brighter, at all expense. Don't make a Z look half-***-ed. Just my not-so-humble opinion.

No worries bro.

I think the regulatory compliance argument for fog light aesthetics is simply going on full tarded-ness. But you can think how you want :)


Tapatalk2 ...

To answer your other question, my Z is mainly driven in the Southwest, Cali but also Arizona and Nevada.

Not sure why you'd assume that if my Z doesn't travel far that neither do I.

If I'm somewhere with more fog risk, like the East coast, it's usually for work. If I'm on another continent, it's been for fun.

I don't take my Z with me I fly and get a rental. Come to think of it, the aero planes I ride in have ultra super bright fog lights. You should get one of those for you Z :)

In any case, I can see you feel strongly for operating a fog light within regulatory guidelines. Or, if not you also approve of running it like a strobe light, or a set of rave lasers, whatever :)

Some peeps want to go subtle. Yep. You know that happens sometimes. No other reason other than they want to and they can. Lols.

Either way, good info came to thread, so I'm good.



Tapatalk2 ...

I don't look at it as a fog light. I look at it as a rear driving light like the tails. The Japanese/Canadian OEM fog is wired to be a 7440 using 25 watts and that matches the brightness of the brake lights. Way too bright for just driving around in an area where we see fog maybe 1 day a year.

Nissan made the call we didn't need one at all, at least mine glows.

...and that's why you make your payment, and I make mine. If i saw a fog light that had a strobe-brake light effect i would think to myself "Wow, he's going to give someone a seizure" or since i'm older I might also wonder "Where's the disco?"

:iagree:

I bought my EVO-R light solely for the blinking feature. I've got it wired for "on" with the brakes, and "blink" for reverse.

It's strictly bling for me. Not too much fog in Houston to deal with.

Just giving you guys grief. If you like what you do with your car, that's all that matters.

Oy! It's a fog light. In America, you don't have it installed. Taking a bulb fixture out of a side marker doesn't mean it's no longer a side marker.

I didn't mean to get people riled up. I just wanted you to know it reminds me, and others, of people slapping 'TypeR' stickers on non-TypeR cars, or putting on fake vents. (it serves only to 'look' like what the real deal actually does)

If you swing through some MB, Audi, and BMW forums, you can find people complaining that their EU car has one brighter taillight when they turn on their fogs. They actually think it's a defect rather than a feature. :rofl2: