WHY OEM INTAKES and FILTERS ARE BETTER

Haboob · 04-03-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT

butt dyno for $529.99

Just ordered one.

Shotta · 04-03-2013, 12:08 AM

Some people probably do it simply for the fact of getting a more "sporty" sound out of the intake since the factory intake is designed to be quiet.

nmjaxx9 · 04-03-2013, 12:40 AM

Disagree, aftermarket intake ftw, stillen one of the first mods I did to the car, and one of the best.

FPenvy · 04-03-2013, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The1michael

To op:

Why wear different clothes when it is far more efficient to have a something like a military uniform with pockets. Its long sleeve, covers your legs. Pretty good in every weather, and would save us billions in production (instead of designers/labels).

Why eat different food when we could all eat the same meal from one restaurant/provider. Costs in shipping and man power would be cut by billions. You would never have to ask your date "so where do you want to eat". Save costs and headaches, how great.

***Sarcasm aside, yes this is really how simple this is. We love it. That goes for mods in general.

*** To the Intake statements: Open all restricted airflow with breather mods and tune as previously stated. Sound, power, efficiency and butt dyno (the only thing that matters) dramatically improve

/close thread

I like this guy lol

Agreed. Close this thread of stupidity.

NitrousZ34 · 04-03-2013, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

+ maxima drivers cause they think they bought 4 door SPORT CAR... while only marginally faster than my MT honda fit.

Andrew cough cough

3.7 ZPA · 04-03-2013, 03:24 AM

Before this thread gets locked, I'd like to state something. I think the extremes of both sides of the argument are unfounded. On the one hand, you have a guy stating that 80% of CAI owners will return to stock. I don't know where he got those numbers from, but I suspect they're a tad...off. The guy's original post sounds a little too "propagandish" to me.

There's no doubt that there are numerous dyno sheets proving the gains of the installation of just a CAI. However, these dyno sheets are also a marketing tool. The results will be the best run on the best of days, under the best of conditions. I don't know how much they would pertain to the harshness of daily driving. Would the loss be more on the hottest, most humid day? Or would they be minimal because of the added air stuffed into the block? We really don't know until someone runs stock and modded on a dyno EVERY DAY.

Bottom line? I don't think the loss is as bad as some people state, and I don't think the gains are as great as the sheets will lead you to think. Swing away.

Akbubba47 · 04-03-2013, 05:18 AM

Potato pancakes are good.

GTLAW · 04-03-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Every person except GTLAW (GSXR750 too) must be wrong. Somehow all the empirical evidence we have gathered is wrong too. We are all doomed. The minimum whp expected is 10whp on a modded car, and more as a first mod. The stock intakes are good, but CAI's will create more power, and more than the 4-6 you claim. We should just spam this thread with dyno results.

Bottom line is stock, second line is full exhaust, 3rd line is CAI and pulleys. Looks like my low end has dramatically improved as well. The dyno must be lying.

Again, if the car could be tested having Air RAM into the stock intakes! it would give you the HP your looking for! reason aftermarket intakes give that HP boast on a dyno is because you are running the car at max speeds with open filters! it's not real world driving

FPenvy · 04-03-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW

Again, if the car could be tested having Air RAM into the stock intakes! it would give you the HP your looking for! reason aftermarket intakes give that HP boast on a dyno is because you are running the car at max speeds with open filters! it's not real world driving

you do realize when on a dyno they have large fans blowing air into the front of the car for intake/cooling purposes. it may not be 100% accurate for actual speeds you hit at the high end on a dyno but still there's air.

even "real world" driving i'll take my aftermarket intakes over those giant ugly inefficient air boxes any day.

GTLAW · 04-03-2013, 11:05 AM

I will be at Z-days, I would love for someone to ride in my car with stock intake and only thing I have is a F.I CBE. I bet my car will feel more alive. Then someone with tons of bolton's

My case I have spent about $3000K on intakes for all my cars and all of them lost power and GAS.. Oh and I had the NISMO intakes on my 350Z NISMO 08 HR and it lost power.

FPenvy · 04-03-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW

I will be at Z-days, I would love for someone to ride in my car with stock intake and only thing I have is a F.I CBE. I bet my car will feel more alive. Then someone with tons of bolton's

My case I have spent about $3000K on intakes for all my cars and all of them lost power and GAS.. Oh and I had the NISMO intakes on my 350Z NISMO 08 HR and it lost power.

i ran my car with just FI CBE and stock intakes for over 10k miles. put my intakes on and it's way better.

you havent made any sense what so ever in this thread.

and i'll be at zdayz as well. i bet mine runs better lol

kenchan · 04-03-2013, 11:19 AM

lets make sure our butt dyno's are calibrated before making any serious statements.

Cmike2780 · 04-03-2013, 11:25 AM

This has got to be one of the most pointless threads ever. The OP's arguement is basically, what's the point of spending all that much when all you see are small gains until you reach the peak powerband. The thing is, we're looking at the Z as a performance car where every hp matters. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going OEM and keeping everything stock. At the same time though, there's nothing wrong with some engine bay bling or a few extra pony's. You don't have to hit the redline every time you drive, but it's nice to know it's there. If all I did was drive the Z like an old lady, I would have been better off with buying an FR-S.

Modifying your car with aftermarket intakes and exhaust has nothing to do with logic or common sense. It's fun. YOLO

MX52Z · 04-03-2013, 11:30 AM

Yeah but it's good for several pages of forum entertainment which is why we're all here reading this anyway.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-03-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

what everyone fails to take into consideration though that while yes, the intake by itself may not provide big gains is the fact that not everyone can afford to plop down the 3 or 4 grand it would take to do all of the above that you mentioned so while it may not be worth it to some people to get just the intake, other people view it as a first step to a larger goal till they can afford the next piece of the puzzle so to speak. in any case this is just an opinion thread so there is no right answer when it comes to this topic, people are just going to do things the way they want/are able to do within their means.

The smart thing to do would be to buy the parts piece by piece, but don't install till you have all parts. Make sense?

04-03-2013, 12:08 AM	#77 (permalink)
Shotta Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Niagara Posts: 316 Drives: 2010 370z black M6 Rep Power: 13	Some people probably do it simply for the fact of getting a more "sporty" sound out of the intake since the factory intake is designed to be quiet. __________________ 6MT - designed for perfectionists 7AT - designed for enthusiasts

04-03-2013, 05:18 AM	#82 (permalink)
Akbubba47 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Fort Lee NJ Posts: 304 Drives: 2009 PW 6sp touring Rep Power: 12	Potato pancakes are good. Eagle, DEpointfive0, Drakonis GTR and 1 others like this. __________________ 2009 PW Touring. 6sp, Volk TE37's, MXP catback, and high flow cats.

04-03-2013, 11:05 AM	#85 (permalink)
GTLAW Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Columbia MD Posts: 373 Drives: Black ??? Rep Power: 15	I will be at Z-days, I would love for someone to ride in my car with stock intake and only thing I have is a F.I CBE. I bet my car will feel more alive. Then someone with tons of bolton's My case I have spent about $3000K on intakes for all my cars and all of them lost power and GAS.. Oh and I had the NISMO intakes on my 350Z NISMO 08 HR and it lost power. __________________ 2013 6MT IPL GrSh\|V-Leds\|OSRAM \| SWIFT \| H&R \| CUSCO \| HKS \| 3M \|

04-03-2013, 11:19 AM	#87 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	lets make sure our butt dyno's are calibrated before making any serious statements. XwChriswX, Eagle, RN SHARK and 2 others like this.

04-03-2013, 11:25 AM	#88 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	This has got to be one of the most pointless threads ever. The OP's arguement is basically, what's the point of spending all that much when all you see are small gains until you reach the peak powerband. The thing is, we're looking at the Z as a performance car where every hp matters. There is absolutely nothing wrong with going OEM and keeping everything stock. At the same time though, there's nothing wrong with some engine bay bling or a few extra pony's. You don't have to hit the redline every time you drive, but it's nice to know it's there. If all I did was drive the Z like an old lady, I would have been better off with buying an FR-S. Modifying your car with aftermarket intakes and exhaust has nothing to do with logic or common sense. It's fun. YOLO RN SHARK, ZMan8, Zoren 370 and 2 others like this. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

04-03-2013, 12:40 AM	#78 (permalink)
nmjaxx9 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Middletown, Ct Posts: 5,853 Drives: 2011 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 26	Disagree, aftermarket intake ftw, stillen one of the first mods I did to the car, and one of the best.

04-03-2013, 03:24 AM	#81 (permalink)
3.7 ZPA Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 352 Drives: '09 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 13	Before this thread gets locked, I'd like to state something. I think the extremes of both sides of the argument are unfounded. On the one hand, you have a guy stating that 80% of CAI owners will return to stock. I don't know where he got those numbers from, but I suspect they're a tad...off. The guy's original post sounds a little too "propagandish" to me. There's no doubt that there are numerous dyno sheets proving the gains of the installation of just a CAI. However, these dyno sheets are also a marketing tool. The results will be the best run on the best of days, under the best of conditions. I don't know how much they would pertain to the harshness of daily driving. Would the loss be more on the hottest, most humid day? Or would they be minimal because of the added air stuffed into the block? We really don't know until someone runs stock and modded on a dyno EVERY DAY. Bottom line? I don't think the loss is as bad as some people state, and I don't think the gains are as great as the sheets will lead you to think. Swing away.

04-03-2013, 11:30 AM	#89 (permalink)
MX52Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Port Charlotte, FL Posts: 471 Drives: Z'less por ahora Rep Power: 12	Yeah but it's good for several pages of forum entertainment which is why we're all here reading this anyway. FPenvy and Zoren 370 like this.

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