WHY OEM INTAKES and FILTERS ARE BETTER

kenchan · 04-02-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the 2013 does it in about 5.7-5.8 (it's fully loaded). A Honda Fit Sport is like 8.3 seconds, that's a huge difference.
And honestly, 5.7-5.8 isn't THAT bad for a 4 door car with 5 seats, Nav, Leather, Bose, heated and cooled seats, and a full glass roof (for under $35k)

^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.

kenchan · 04-02-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

So if I buy a car, it depreciates. Correct?

I mod it, it depreciates faster. Correct?

If I return it back to stock, prior to selling, does it magically regain that extra depreciation back? Because that's what you're alluding to...

it's weird how dealers and carmax offer me more if i put the car back to stock vs selling as-is with mods.

carmax even offered to give me the full stock-car price if i brought in the factory bits. so i did the next day and they kept their word.

same depreciated-faster car but just with stock bits.

ZMan8 · 04-02-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.

Basically a good driver in a 120hp car> crappy driver in 280 hp car

7speed · 04-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

+ maxima drivers cause they think they bought 4 door SPORT CAR... while only marginally faster than my MT honda fit.

LOL, you must be smoking the same stuff as O.P

My 04 6spd Maxima while only low 14's @ 98 was pretty much all you needed for the street.

Also had sexy intake note to go with it (370 can't match that and for sure no Fit)

XwChriswX · 04-02-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

it's weird how dealers and carmax offer me more if i put the car back to stock vs selling as-is with mods.

carmax even offered to give me the full stock-car price if i brought in the factory bits. so i did the next day and they kept their word.

same depreciated-faster car but just with stock bits.

You sir, must stop dividing by zero, else heads are likely to asplode in this thread.

kenchan · 04-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

You sir, must stop dividing by zero, else heads are likely to asplode in this thread.

kenchan · 04-02-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 7speed

LOL, you must be smoking the same stuff as O.P

My 04 6spd Maxima while only low 14's @ 98 was pretty much all you needed for the street.

Also had sexy intake note to go with it (370 can't match that and for sure no Fit)

you see, you are the realworld folk that drives maximas with PRIDE!

4 DOOR SPORTS CAR!

kenchan · 04-02-2013, 03:30 PM

guys, thanks for the fun.

im heading out now. enjoy your day.

gsxr750 · 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM

Already covered in my infamous ARE CAI REALLY WORTH IT thread.

Basically its up to the owner what and what they intend to do with the car.

The only real concern I found is that there some issues with MAS sensor problems , due to oil problems from, (oiled air filter) in some cases the dealer will blame the problem on the air filter and deny the claim. K/N will try and help resolve the problem, but I won't count on a CS person carrying much weight with another company.

The after market CAI will give you about 10 hp increase at 6500 rpm, but below that hp increase is barely noticeable.

So if you intend to track or drag your car or drive on the street in 1st and 2nd. gears all the time, then the after market CAI is the way to go.

Another note ! don't expect the tread to get past 4 pages with the censors.

Montez · 04-02-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the 2013 does it in about 5.7-5.8 (it's fully loaded). A Honda Fit Sport is like 8.3 seconds, that's a huge difference.
And honestly, 5.7-5.8 isn't THAT bad for a 4 door car with 5 seats, Nav, Leather, Bose, heated and cooled seats, and a full glass roof (for under $35k)

Agreed, funny how most manual Z drivers on the street could probably barely match that time....Max is much much closer to Z in acceleration than a Fit at (8.2 sec to 60 @ 83.3 mph in 1/4 for the 5spd manual) can dream of being close to a Max. Cracks me up

Haboob · 04-02-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

lol, no i meant the forum member by the name of gsxr750...he started a similar thread a while back...must be his retarded cousin that started this one

OH. Well. This just got a lot less interesting. Must have been a thread prior to me owning my Z.

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Talk about zero heat soak from the engine...

Exactly! We're onto something here!

ZMan8 · 04-02-2013, 03:39 PM

I'm pretty sure you guys missed his point...he was referring to the regular drivers who all of a sudden think they are professional racers in a "sports' car. Kenchan is saying an experienced driver in a fit can basically take on one of these folks.

XwChriswX · 04-02-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I'm pretty sure you guys missed his point...he was referring to the regular drivers who all of a sudden think they are professional racers in a "sports' car. Kenchan is saying an experienced driver in a fit can basically take on one of these folks.

That may work on a track, but ask any racer, any real racer, weaving through traffic, or at a busy stoplight is where it's at.

DEpointfive0 · 04-02-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.

Well, now it's not stock for stock with grippy tires. But yeah, the Maxima isn't 100% tailored to sports car enthusiasts.
Although my '09 had a CAI (more like a WAI) and a car delete y-pipe (Maxima has 3). And the 2013 will have the same mods soon as well as probably a plenum spacer, and I already have a Stillen UD pulley for it.

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Originally Posted by Montez

Agreed, funny how most manual Z drivers on the street could probably barely match that time....Max is much much closer to Z in acceleration than a Fit at (8.2 sec to 60 @ 83.3 mph in 1/4 for the 5spd manual) can dream of being close to a Max. Cracks me up

The acceleration of the Maxima is as good as it is due to CVT, it allows you to stay on peak power all the time. But the biggest disadvantages weight, you can't dyno it properly, it can't take much more than 300HP, and I BET the loss to WHP is worse than on a regular AT

Apoc370z · 04-02-2013, 04:11 PM

I like how fast this thread turned into a maxima vs fit discussion

04-02-2013, 03:30 PM	#38 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	guys, thanks for the fun. im heading out now. enjoy your day. ZMan8 likes this.

04-02-2013, 03:33 PM	#39 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	Already covered in my infamous ARE CAI REALLY WORTH IT thread. Basically its up to the owner what and what they intend to do with the car. The only real concern I found is that there some issues with MAS sensor problems , due to oil problems from, (oiled air filter) in some cases the dealer will blame the problem on the air filter and deny the claim. K/N will try and help resolve the problem, but I won't count on a CS person carrying much weight with another company. The after market CAI will give you about 10 hp increase at 6500 rpm, but below that hp increase is barely noticeable. So if you intend to track or drag your car or drive on the street in 1st and 2nd. gears all the time, then the after market CAI is the way to go. Another note ! don't expect the tread to get past 4 pages with the censors. Last edited by gsxr750; 04-02-2013 at 03:36 PM.

04-02-2013, 03:39 PM	#42 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	I'm pretty sure you guys missed his point...he was referring to the regular drivers who all of a sudden think they are professional racers in a "sports' car. Kenchan is saying an experienced driver in a fit can basically take on one of these folks. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

04-02-2013, 04:11 PM	#45 (permalink)
Apoc370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 999 Drives: 2011 GM z34 Rep Power: 15	I like how fast this thread turned into a maxima vs fit discussion DEpointfive0 likes this.

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