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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the 2013 does it in about 5.7-5.8 (it's fully loaded). A Honda Fit Sport is like 8.3 seconds, that's a huge difference.
And honestly, 5.7-5.8 isn't THAT bad for a 4 door car with 5 seats, Nav, Leather, Bose, heated and cooled seats, and a full glass roof (for under $35k)
^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.
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^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.
Basically a good driver in a 120hp car> crappy driver in 280 hp car
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Already covered in my infamous ARE CAI REALLY WORTH IT thread.

Basically its up to the owner what and what they intend to do with the car.

The only real concern I found is that there some issues with MAS sensor problems , due to oil problems from, (oiled air filter) in some cases the dealer will blame the problem on the air filter and deny the claim. K/N will try and help resolve the problem, but I won't count on a CS person carrying much weight with another company.

The after market CAI will give you about 10 hp increase at 6500 rpm, but below that hp increase is barely noticeable.

So if you intend to track or drag your car or drive on the street in 1st and 2nd. gears all the time, then the after market CAI is the way to go.

Another note ! don't expect the tread to get past 4 pages with the censors.

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You sir, owe us all ice cream. This thread has reached greater than four pages.

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To op:

Why wear different clothes when it is far more efficient to have a something like a military uniform with pockets. Its long sleeve, covers your legs. Pretty good in every weather, and would save us billions in production (instead of designers/labels).

Why eat different food when we could all eat the same meal from one restaurant/provider. Costs in shipping and man power would be cut by billions. You would never have to ask your date "so where do you want to eat". Save costs and headaches, how great.

***Sarcasm aside, yes this is really how simple this is. We love it. That goes for mods in general.

*** To the Intake statements: Open all restricted airflow with breather mods and tune as previously stated. Sound, power, efficiency and butt dyno (the only thing that matters) dramatically improve

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Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the 2013 does it in about 5.7-5.8 (it's fully loaded). A Honda Fit Sport is like 8.3 seconds, that's a huge difference.
And honestly, 5.7-5.8 isn't THAT bad for a 4 door car with 5 seats, Nav, Leather, Bose, heated and cooled seats, and a full glass roof (for under $35k)
Agreed, funny how most manual Z drivers on the street could probably barely match that time....Max is much much closer to Z in acceleration than a Fit at (8.2 sec to 60 @ 83.3 mph in 1/4 for the 5spd manual) can dream of being close to a Max. Cracks me up

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^^ real world driving DE, real world driving. the MT fit does near 7sec with grippy tires and perfect launch. the oe tires suck on the car, thus 8sec. most maxima drivers are normal non car folks and dont know how to drive...yet they see a modded honda and pretent to know wat they're doing and want to 'show them' wat their 4door SPORTSCAR can do. but it's not that much faster in real world.

ive seen it too many times. they crack me up.
Well, now it's not stock for stock with grippy tires. But yeah, the Maxima isn't 100% tailored to sports car enthusiasts.
Although my '09 had a CAI (more like a WAI) and a car delete y-pipe (Maxima has 3). And the 2013 will have the same mods soon as well as probably a plenum spacer, and I already have a Stillen UD pulley for it.

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Agreed, funny how most manual Z drivers on the street could probably barely match that time....Max is much much closer to Z in acceleration than a Fit at (8.2 sec to 60 @ 83.3 mph in 1/4 for the 5spd manual) can dream of being close to a Max. Cracks me up
The acceleration of the Maxima is as good as it is due to CVT, it allows you to stay on peak power all the time. But the biggest disadvantages weight, you can't dyno it properly, it can't take much more than 300HP, and I BET the loss to WHP is worse than on a regular AT
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Well, now it's not stock for stock with grippy tires. But yeah, the Maxima isn't 100% tailored to sports car enthusiasts.
Although my '09 had a CAI (more like a WAI) and a car delete y-pipe (Maxima has 3). And the 2013 will have the same mods soon as well as probably a plenum spacer, and I already have a Stillen UD pulley for it.



The acceleration of the Maxima is as good as it is due to CVT, it allows you to stay on peak power all the time. But the biggest disadvantages weight, you can't dyno it properly, it can't take much more than 300HP, and I BET the loss to WHP is worse than on a regular AT
Yuup, I know. Very verse on Maxima's as I am with Z's, have had several of each and like them both.
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+ maxima drivers cause they think they bought 4 door SPORT CAR... while only marginally faster than my MT honda fit.

LOL, you must be smoking the same stuff as O.P

My 04 6spd Maxima while only low 14's @ 98 was pretty much all you needed for the street.

Also had sexy intake note to go with it (370 can't match that and for sure no Fit)
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LOL, you must be smoking the same stuff as O.P

My 04 6spd Maxima while only low 14's @ 98 was pretty much all you needed for the street.

Also had sexy intake note to go with it (370 can't match that and for sure no Fit)
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err....not exactly. For one, a properly oiled filter shouldn't be gumming up your engine bay with oil. You could also go with a dry filter element. The Gen 3's and most CAI designs also relocate the filters ahead of the radiator support, which means there's no way oil & dirt is going to make it all the way from the filter to the engine block, unless your filters are complete garbage. The OEM intake, although a great design, is not a true ram air intake. The inlets are obstructed by the front bumper. When you do a dyno run, you also try to simulate airflow from the front with some fans blowing. There are benefits to keeping it stock, but it's not because of performance. You don't gain power with clean filters, you lose them with dirty ones, regardless of intake design. An intake can mess with the AF ratios....but then again, so can the exhaust system.

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