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Originally Posted by Adam426 Most of the gains people "feel" are an illusion. Plus they are financially vested in seeing a result. In reality, the OEM manufacturer has put as

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Old 04-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Most of the gains people "feel" are an illusion. Plus they are financially vested in seeing a result. In reality, the OEM manufacturer has put as much or more time researching the issue of airflow and its relation to HP/torque as the aftermarket producer, while balanced against the need for long-term engine protection, that OEM determination cannot be surpassed.

People aren't satisfied with enjoying and appreciating what they have. Instead, they constantly try to improve (in reality just make something different-ususally worse) and turn their cars into Frankensteins from Pep Boys. The market bears this out. No one ever wants to buy your worked on car. Actually, you get less for it. Why? Because it is no better, and is usually worse, than OEM.

You see these clowns with their worked on cars driving around. Their owners think they are so unique and special. Nope. Just a tool who bought a bunch of snake oil.




I just modded my car with spacers and exhaust is on the way. Now I'm a clown.

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Seriously. So restrictive.
F*ck it, I'm taking off the whole bumper. And I'm just not even going to have exhaust... I'll take the manifolds off.


That engines gonna have sh*t running through it faster than the burrito eating contest champ.
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lol, no i meant the forum member by the name of gsxr750...he started a similar thread a while back...must be his retarded cousin that started this one
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Talk about zero heat soak from the engine...
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Apparently you've never been to a real auto auction then...

Barrett-Jackson is a waste of time because they never make money back on their cars...


That's why most people save their stock parts and revert the car back to stock after they decide to sell it. You're assuming the average car buyer is an idiot. While there are plenty to go around, the median driver is not so stupid to assume anyone will have the exact same taste as theirs. Plus you are overlooking the fact that a car is a depreciatory asset the day you drive it off the lot. Modded or not, no one ever expects to get dollar for dollar for their car when they sell it unless its just that good of a deal.
True. It is a depreciating asset and time, not mods, are the main driver of the depreciation. And I will say that there are effective mods. For sure. Mods that increase performance (whatever that is- acceleration, handling, whatever) are readily available. But I question their value. Then again, if value is what you are after- then get a Honda CR-Z. I guess I was really debating the merits of stock versus modified cars for myself. To each his/her own. There are some cool mods out there.

What I am sure of-is that OEM wise- we are experiencing a golden age of automobiles. Look at the performance we get stock for the money. A stock $35k Z that will blow the doors off of 95% of cars made 10 years ago at any price.
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True. It is a depreciating asset and time, not mods, are the main driver of the depreciation. And I will say that there are effective mods. For sure. Mods that increase performance (whatever that is- acceleration, handling, whatever) are readily available. But I question their value. Then again, if value is what you are after- then get a Honda CR-Z. I guess I was really debating the merits of stock versus modified cars for myself. To each his/her own. There are some cool mods out there.

What I am sure of-is that OEM wise- we are experiencing a golden age of automobiles. Look at the performance we get stock for the money. A stock $35k Z that will blow the doors off of 95% of cars made 10 years ago at any price.
So if I buy a car, it depreciates. Correct?

I mod it, it depreciates faster. Correct?

If I return it back to stock, prior to selling, does it magically regain that extra depreciation back? Because that's what you're alluding to...


If you want value on your return, you obviously get something more economical and mass produced. However most people that buy a Z fit into two categories. They want a Z and it is the epitome of fun for them, or they buy a Z because they can afford to buy it, enjoy it, and sell it to get their next fun car at their leisure. Modded or unmodded has nothing to do with either.

Of course it's going to smoke lots of 10 yr older cars... That's the nature of advancement. But whos to say the "new" developments 10 years ago in their prime didn't mean the golden age of automobiles, some would say the muscle car era was the peak due to the fact no one cared about emissions or restrictions. It was build a good looking car, put the biggest motor you could find in it, and melt tires.
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Lol, not an insult, I know it's NOT a sports car, BUT, I've personally clocked a 0-60 in my 2009 Maxima of 5.5 seconds, and the 2013 does it in about 5.7-5.8 (it's fully loaded). A Honda Fit Sport is like 8.3 seconds, that's a huge difference.
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