Really stupid question about Nissan Ester Oil...

darli328 · 03-29-2013, 04:29 AM

Maybe it's because it's late but I've been searching the forum and found this. Ester Oil has suspended metallic nano-particles added to their formula to help properly lubricate the Diamond-Like Coating (DLC) on the VVEL parts. Here's my stupid question. Would a magnetic oil drain plug have any effect on these metallic nano-particles?

Wonka2581 · 03-29-2013, 04:41 AM

I really don't think it would, and they recommend ester oil but it's not required, ill be using Amsoil, a lot of people use redline as well. Hope it helped...

DEpointfive0 · 03-29-2013, 04:45 AM

Holy crap, that's the least stupid, "stupid" question I have heard. And one I haven't seen

The biggest thing I know Nissan's Ester Oil has is about 5-10 times as much Molybdenum, which is a metal lubricant.
Now Molybdenum is magmatic, but not highly magnetic
I doubt you'd actually absorb the Molybdenum from the oil with just a magnetic oil plug. I know people have sent their oil in for analyzation who had the drain plug and their Molybdenum levels were still sky high

Just my 2 cents

axmea? · 03-29-2013, 09:22 AM

In addition to what DEpointfiveO said, Heat is the enemy, not the magnetic drain plug. Id worry more about how to keep the car cooler than if my drain plug is hurting my particles. You are thinking too deep, did you inhale before asking this?

Try finding your answer at google scholar to see what I mean.

darli328 · 03-29-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

In addition to what DEpointfiveO said, Heat is the enemy, not the magnetic drain plug. Id worry more about how to keep the car cooler than if my drain plug is hurting my particles. You are thinking too deep, did you inhale before asking this?

Try finding your answer at google scholar to see what I mean.

Just tried to Google it with no luck...

axmea? · 03-29-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by darli328

Just tried to Google it with no luck...

I was being silly. Google Scholar was way over the top with scientific info regarding metallic nanoparticles. Way more than my capacity.

darli328 · 03-29-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

I was being silly. Google Scholar was way over the top with scientific info regarding metallic nanoparticles. Way more than my capacity.

Haha, I wasn't sure for a second there so I figured I'd google it and post back.

Sh0velMan · 03-29-2013, 01:15 PM

Molybdenum is only paramagnetic, it would take a lot more than a drain plug to capture the "nanoparticles" in a magnetic field. In fact, even if they did get stuck to it for a time, the flow of oil past it during cornering and the like would likely have enough force to dislodge it.

Go for it, I say!

darli328 · 03-29-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

Molybdenum is only paramagnetic, it would take a lot more than a drain plug to capture the "nanoparticles" in a magnetic field. In fact, even if they did get stuck to it for a time, the flow of oil past it during cornering and the like would likely have enough force to dislodge it.

Go for it, I say!

Haha, thanks! I'll go ahead and leave it at that unless anyone else has anthing to add...

RoshDawg · 03-29-2013, 11:03 PM

I have some experience with magnetics, and to affect fluid based metalics I have always observed the need for electro magnets. I don't suppose you're running an electromagnetic oil drain plug? Good question though!

darli328 · 03-30-2013, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg

I have some experience with magnetics, and to affect fluid based metalics I have always observed the need for electro magnets. I don't suppose you're running an electromagnetic oil drain plug? Good question though!

Haha, nope just your genaric magnetic drain plug. Thanks or the post, lots of good info here.

DEpointfive0 · 03-30-2013, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by darli328

Haha, nope just your genaric magnetic drain plug. Thanks or the post, lots of good info here.

Lol, yeah there is! Best forum I've ever seen

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darli328 · 03-30-2013, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Lol, yeah there is! Best forum I've ever seen

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Haha, thank you!

gofast · 03-30-2013, 08:29 AM

I live in central Tejas and it gets and stays so damn hot in the summer. I haven't had my car long enough for the first oil change, what weight and brand oil do most of ya'll use?

DEpointfive0 · 03-30-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gofast

I live in central Tejas and it gets and stays so damn hot in the summer. I haven't had my car long enough for the first oil change, what weight and brand oil do most of ya'll use?

YAY!!! Dumb question!!!

Sorry, he have, oooo, 6988798732987 threads for oil, essentially use whatever you damn well please, LOL

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darli328 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seattle Posts: 198 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 13	Really stupid question about Nissan Ester Oil... Maybe it's because it's late but I've been searching the forum and found this. Ester Oil has suspended metallic nano-particles added to their formula to help properly lubricate the Diamond-Like Coating (DLC) on the VVEL parts. Here's my stupid question. Would a magnetic oil drain plug have any effect on these metallic nano-particles?

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Wonka2581 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 3,083 Drives: MY WIFE CRAZY.... Rep Power: 2612	I really don't think it would, and they recommend ester oil but it's not required, ill be using Amsoil, a lot of people use redline as well. Hope it helped... __________________ "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat""Winston Churchill"

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DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	Holy crap, that's the least stupid, "stupid" question I have heard. And one I haven't seen The biggest thing I know Nissan's Ester Oil has is about 5-10 times as much Molybdenum, which is a metal lubricant. Now Molybdenum is magmatic, but not highly magnetic I doubt you'd actually absorb the Molybdenum from the oil with just a magnetic oil plug. I know people have sent their oil in for analyzation who had the drain plug and their Molybdenum levels were still sky high Just my 2 cents JARblue and Wonka2581 like this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

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Sh0velMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth Posts: 3,349 Drives: Noisily. Rep Power: 21	Molybdenum is only paramagnetic, it would take a lot more than a drain plug to capture the "nanoparticles" in a magnetic field. In fact, even if they did get stuck to it for a time, the flow of oil past it during cornering and the like would likely have enough force to dislodge it. Go for it, I say! __________________ Buy My Car! \| Build Thread

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gofast Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Temple, TX Posts: 14 Drives: 2013-Touring-PW-Auto Rep Power: 13	I live in central Tejas and it gets and stays so damn hot in the summer. I haven't had my car long enough for the first oil change, what weight and brand oil do most of ya'll use?

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