370z is aesthetically a masterpiece

Red__Zed · 03-26-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I get it. Just not a fan. Wait... What really makes me not a fan is I cant understand how this car doesn't top out at $25,000??? $5,000 you're paying in RWD tax. lol. No thanks. This thing should start @ $22,000 and top out at $25,000. It doesn't deserve to be $3,000 under the Z even when fully loaded.

That was the original marketing price they set. And if they would have stuck by it. I wouldn't have anything to say. But $30,000 for this loaded is laughable... Honestly. Especially considering loaded means you have a screen and leather?

I don't have a problem with paying for performance when the price matches the performance. The BRZ/FRS doesn't make a case of justifying the price.

Frankly, they jumped the price because Nissan let them.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 12:30 PM

I can't justify the price either since I value performance for the dollar, but some people can so they get away with it.

lemon-fresh · 03-26-2013, 12:30 PM

Wow, this thread is a refreshing change of pace. I'm likely just parroting what others have said but the Z package of killer good looks, handling and speed is still hard to beat at its current price point.

Makes me really excited to see what happens in 2015. Rumors of American car manufacturers looking to cut weight and sleeker looking concept cars means there may be hope for Z like looks and handling with even more power. Maybe this competition will make Nissan wake the **** up and release a 3.0TT Z, one can dream.

kfull · 03-26-2013, 12:38 PM

Is it pretty much a sure thing that a new z will be out in 2015? Or is it just a rumor? Havent been up on Nissan news lately.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mannysrt8

It's been a year since I have had my z,previously owned 2 350's in the past.

Best bang for the buck as far as looks and performance, nothing comes even remotely close in the looks department. ...just saying

This, I can agree with 100%. The aesthetics of the car (both inside and out) are extremely pleasing to me, as well.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

Wow, this thread is a refreshing change of pace. I'm likely just parroting what others have said but the Z package of killer good looks, handling and speed is still hard to beat at its current price point.

Makes me really excited to see what happens in 2015. Rumors of American car manufacturers looking to cut weight and sleeker looking concept cars means there may be hope for Z like looks and handling with even more power. Maybe this competition will make Nissan wake the **** up and release a 3.0TT Z, one can dream.

The American cars already handle better than the Z. Now they are fixing the looks. WIN!

Nissan needs to fix their car's performance, but I hope they leave the looks alone. It's already sexy.

Haboob · 03-26-2013, 12:50 PM

The American cars have a long, long, loooooooooong way to go to make their interiors look good. I'm so disappointed in the outer and interior looks of American cars that I refused to even consider them in my new car purchase.

I've grown up, I don't need a lot of HP and no looks. I want the best of both worlds and the Z gives that to me, and with only two seats (I didn't want more than two, so that ruled out the G, etc.).

cheshirecat · 03-26-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I don't have a problem with paying for performance when the price matches the performance. The BRZ/FRS doesn't make a case of justifying the price.

I agree, but unfortunately the market determines the price.

If they could sell the car for $60k and still have it sell, they would. Of course, it's nowhere worth that, but worth is judged in the eyes of the buyer.

It seems they're selling pretty well at this price point, so there's really no reason to alter the price (if not move it upward).

It's the same thing with Porches- they're not worth the money in terms of cost to the manufacturer. Porsche makes insane profit on their vehicles. It doesn't matter, though... people keep paying out the *** for it.

I'm glad Nissan decided to go the bang-for-your-buck route. That's something I can always get behind.

ImportConvert · 03-26-2013, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

The American cars have a long, long, loooooooooong way to go to make their interiors look good. I'm so disappointed in the outer and interior looks of American cars that I refused to even consider them in my new car purchase.

I've grown up, I don't need a lot of HP and no looks. I want the best of both worlds and the Z gives that to me, and with only two seats (I didn't want more than two, so that ruled out the G, etc.).

Makes no sense that you didn't get a Touring/NAV, if that is true.

The new American cars are getting it right. I bet the 2015 mustang Premium interior will be sickhouse, and the C7 interior already looks killer.

Haboob · 03-26-2013, 12:55 PM

The Corvette has gotten a little better, I'll give you that. However, brown seats - yuck, and the exterior is ugly (see the new Stingray). Chevy is letting the Corvette get away from its roots.

The Mustang, Camaro, Charger, Challenger, etc. all are too boxy and toy-like.

And what's with the electronic e-brake? I don't know if I trust the longevity of that vs. a cable.

Edit: YOU did have the Corvette interior up, then ninja-editted it!

Red__Zed · 03-26-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Makes no sense that you didn't get a Touring/NAV, if that is true.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Makes no sense that you didn't get a Touring/NAV, if that is true.

The new American cars are getting it right. I bet the 2015 mustang Premium interior will be sickhouse, and the C7 interior already looks killer.

I don't think so at all.

If I bought a 370Z again I wouldn't choose the touring option again. Not a fan of how the leather wears (not good, in my experience). The cloth seats are high quality and feel like they grip better. They certainly breathe better.

And I would want to add my own sound system, as the Bose is junk.

Haboob · 03-26-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Makes no sense that you didn't get a Touring/NAV, if that is true.

Makes no sense that I just didn't go out and buy a Porsche 911 Turbo if that's true.

I can't justify an extra $6-7k for leather seats and a lackluster nav. when I can purchase a better 2DIN and sound system for far less. As for the leather, it's not preferred here in Phoenix for obvious reasons. Is it nice? Yes, but too hot (you can't always have covered parking).

ImportConvert · 03-26-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't think so at all.

If I bought a 370Z again I wouldn't choose the touring option again. Not a fan of how the leather wears (not good, in my experience). The cloth seats are high quality and feel like they grip better. They certainly breathe better.

And I would want to add my own sound system, as the Bose is junk.

My seats are wearing fine so far at 18,xxx. Sound system is iffy, I got NAV for...the NAV.

m4a1mustang · 03-26-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My seats are wearing fine so far at 18,xxx. Sound system is iffy, I got NAV for...the NAV.

I'd rather add my own double din nav or just use my garmin... or my phone with forever free map updates.

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Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	The Corvette has gotten a little better, I'll give you that. However, brown seats - yuck, and the exterior is ugly (see the new Stingray). Chevy is letting the Corvette get away from its roots. The Mustang, Camaro, Charger, Challenger, etc. all are too boxy and toy-like. And what's with the electronic e-brake? I don't know if I trust the longevity of that vs. a cable. Edit: YOU did have the Corvette interior up, then ninja-editted it! Last edited by Haboob; 03-26-2013 at 01:03 PM.

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