Nismo = cheese-mo

juan05

i know im tired of all the bitching people are giving it. the only people who have tested it was edmunds. thats not even a test

arcticreaver

you purchasing a name. just like with nike, adidas, etc.

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RCZ

Bashing isnt suspect... people are posting facts to back up their opinion. In the end its still just their opinion.

Doesn't it bother you that Nissan could have very easily just as well have called it the "track" trim of the car, like the 350Z had a "track" trim? It would have made more sense with the level of upgrades that it got.

and everyone knows a modified anything can be faster than an unmodified something else... thats not the argument here. The argument is whether the upgrades are worth the price charged for them. As in... "Could I do better with $10k in aftermarket parts?" I think the answer is yes...

SOLISIMO

hmmm good points being made in this thread, but it will never happend to me its like the Shelby KR.... do you really want to pay that much more for something you can yourself?

ArtVandaleigh

I think my biggest gripe with the 370 Nismo is the fact that being oriented towards track use, they blatantly did not install an oil cooler. What kind of slap in the face is that? A track car that will overheat after 3-4 laps and they knew this was going to be an issue from day 1? I think the overall package isnt bad for high 30's, but compared to other track offerings from different manufacturers, this is unacceptable.

sensi09

In the end, you can always get more performance through aftermarket. Since M and AMG models were brought up, you could easily get a 335i to outperform a M3 for less money, but if you follow those threads on the BMW boards, the overall sentiment is like "who cares and that's not really the whole point."

Oh and I would hope that a Nismo 370 outperforms it's 350 variant. Doesn't a regular 370Z come close to or exceed the performance of the Nismo 350Z on the track already?

NIZMOZ

Per the tests so far no.

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Robert_Nash

Hugh...what tests are you referring to?

The tests I've read says the 370 is at equal to or better than the NISMO 350 in 0-60; 60-0 and skidpad.

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shabarivas

Wow - honestly who cares about the oil cooler - its a 500$ expense on a 35K car... stop whining about it and go get one if you really are that worried. Seriously those who track their cars will be spending a LOT more than the cost of an oil cooler to keep their car running well - ie tires / brakes / oil changes and what not... Seriously - the nismo isnt as different as it used to be w/ the 350z but so what? its still the nismo and it still will be worth it if you like the look / handling of the car... you get weight loss and exhaust / intake w/ a warranty...

theDreamer

But you are missing the point, it is not about price but warranty.
By not having the oil cooler stock, Nissan is showing/stating they do not really want this car on the track, and if you add the oil cooler you void part of your warranty if a problem occurs from it.

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Robert_Nash

I'm still trying to figure out what makes people think the Nissan (or any other mas-manufacturer) "wants" their cars on the track and/or that the manufacturer's vehicle warranty should cover that sort of use.

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shabarivas

There are laws in place which say that unless the dealer can prove that your oil cooler is the reason your car broke down - they will have to cover the warranty work... this is seriously a non-issue. Are you seriously telling me that you plan on leaving your track car stock?

theDreamer

Yes, I know the law, we have had long debates on this forum already about it.
But it is not just the oil issue of the warranty, Nissan clearly does not want the car on the track even as stock, now Robert makes a good point in who says that is what Nissan intends. But I would feel that marketing of the product towards "competition suspension" and other parts makes one wonder who they are hoping buys this.

Now would I leave my car stock? Wrong person to ask because this is my first sports car and the power currently is more than I need so I would leave it completely stock without a question.

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Robert_Nash

That "law" is a bit of a red hearing and has already been significantly discussed here.

It's all well and good to say the law is on the consumer's side but if a manufacturer takes the position that an aftermarket addition, especially anything used for "off road" use (i.e. track use) precipitated or could have precipitated a failure and they refuse warranty coverage then the consumer is left with what is likely to be a real headache and may well mean heading for the court room...very few consumers have the time, inclination or financial resources to sue a manufacturer under that statute and if they did, their Z would likely have become a "classic" by the time the case was adjudicated even assuming it was a victory for the consumer.

If anyone says that adding aftermarket performance parts will "automatically" void your warranty that simply isn't true...by the same token, anyone claiming that resolving a dispute between the consumer and the manufacturer is simple, quick or easy is also not likely true and I'd suggest that any evidence that a vehicle was put on a race track would likely result in making a warranty claim even more difficult.

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The_Zed_car

I prefer the Nismo 350Z > Nismo 370Z. Can be had for cheaper, and then very little is needed to have boatloads of fun with it.