Track Vs. Street

chknhawk · 03-18-2013, 02:20 PM

This is the only differences? A little hard to believe. If that is the case I am not doing too bad.

theDreamer · 03-18-2013, 02:38 PM

I would imagine there might be some minor other upgrades, from the picture alone you see different wheels & modified body panels.

dP3NGU1N · 03-18-2013, 02:46 PM

Looks like TCIIIs? I imagine a real rear diff makes all the difference.

Osiris · 03-18-2013, 03:37 PM

rollcage, diff, brake pads, and seats don't justify the $100k difference in price.

ZMan8 · 03-18-2013, 03:41 PM

It's not 100k difference. Gt academy does not use the nismo rc car. They have modified versions of the coupe sport models.

Osiris · 03-18-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZMan8

It's not 100k difference. Gt academy does not use the nismo rc car. They have modified versions of the coupe sport models.

ah, my bad...yea i was referring to the nismo rc car which is actually $164,000

And it isn't much different as far as changes as the GT Academy's car.

DarkJak · 03-18-2013, 04:45 PM

Nismo RC has a lot of difference though.
Off the top of my head:
"stripped" interior (never done I guess)
Racing bucket seat
race control panel area instead of the radio
Race exhuaust
Different wheels
Brake cooling ducts
Those two coolers with the radiators in the back. I'm guessing oil and diff? or perhaps one is for trans.
Racing brakes
Cage
And i'm just gonna guess there's different suspension.
So there is quite a lot of difference.
130k more is pretty ridiculous though.

GT academy's could probably be replicated with 5k of mods and labor.

Osiris · 03-18-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJak

Nismo RC has a lot of difference though.
Off the top of my head:
"stripped" interior (never done I guess)
Racing bucket seat
race control panel area instead of the radio
Race exhuaust
Different wheels
Brake cooling ducts
Those two coolers with the radiators in the back. I'm guessing oil and diff? or perhaps one is for trans.
Racing brakes
Cage
And i'm just gonna guess there's different suspension.
So there is quite a lot of difference.
130k more is pretty ridiculous though.

GT academy's could probably be replicated with 5k of mods and labor.

yea, you could probably get everything you listed for $15k or less.

m4a1mustang · 03-18-2013, 04:59 PM

You guys are forgetting the point of the NISMO RC, though.

It's designed to go straight from the factory to FIA GT4 or World Challenge GTS competition. With some small tweaks it can run in the Continental Tire GS class.

Good luck building your showroom Z into a competitive (and legal) FIA/SCCA/GrandAm competitor for $15k.

BGTV8 · 03-18-2013, 05:04 PM

The NISMO Fairlady Z RC has the following:

1. Full race brakes including Bosch motorpsort ABS figure $6K and $10k each
2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K
3. Full FIA spec cage - to fit it, the roof panel is unpicked and removed
4. Once cage is fitted, body is seam welded, that would be 100+ hours of labour, figure $10K in labour alone, more if you are paying race fabrication hourly rates
5. Air-jacks supplied and plumbed - $10K
6. Diff and gearbox coolers supplied, installed and plumbed - $10K
7. Custom wiring harness - $5K
8. TE37 wheels and Yoki slicks - $6K - additional wheel sets @ $4K
9. Custom interior - seat, harness, switch gear, dash changes, FIA electrically controlled fire-bottle - $10K
10. Titanium exhaust and headers - $3K
11. Engine - $12K
12. Gearbox, carbon fibre tailshaft, diff, half-shafts etc - $10K
13. Suspension bits, hubs plus Ohlins TT44 shocks - $ 15K

The total is north of $120K easily .............. and there are lots of things I've omitted

I have built a couple of race cars, and it is surprising how expensive it is ... and the most expensive way is to start with a new car off the showroom floor as you pay to remove stuff (HVAC - interior strip, pull redundant wiring - there is 40Kg of wiring to get rid of for instance).

The most cost effective way is to start with a shell, but that means putchasing all the "bits" you need (suspension, steering, driveline, etc), and then cosider CF guards (fender), doors, hatch - there is another 6-7K alone.

The NSIMO Fairlady Z RC "retails" at 12.5Mill Yen and IMHO that is a realtively cheap race car eligible for FIA GT4 championship. Note that the negine in this car is quoted at "more than 355ps" and according to my research the GT4 MISMO VQ37 engine makes around 440hp at 9000rpm with a 30-hour time to rebuild. Makes it a pretty good option in my book.

You need to comapre apples and apples ...

m4a1mustang · 03-18-2013, 05:07 PM

Good stuff, BG. Thanks for going into detail.

Osiris · 03-18-2013, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K

good info, i've always wondered why it cost so much. I find it funny though that they charge $15k for NOT putting those things on for #2

ZMan8 · 03-18-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

The NISMO Fairlady Z RC has the following:

1. Full race brakes including Bosch motorpsort ABS figure $6K and $10k each
2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K
3. Full FIA spec cage - to fit it, the roof panel is unpicked and removed
4. Once cage is fitted, body is seam welded, that would be 100+ hours of labour, figure $10K in labour alone, more if you are paying race fabrication hourly rates
5. Air-jacks supplied and plumbed - $10K
6. Diff and gearbox coolers supplied, installed and plumbed - $10K
7. Custom wiring harness - $5K
8. TE37 wheels and Yoki slicks - $6K - additional wheel sets @ $4K
9. Custom interior - seat, harness, switch gear, dash changes, FIA electrically controlled fire-bottle - $10K
10. Titanium exhaust and headers - $3K
11. Engine - $12K
12. Gearbox, carbon fibre tailshaft, diff, half-shafts etc - $10K
13. Suspension bits, hubs plus Ohlins TT44 shocks - $ 15K

The total is north of $120K easily .............. and there are lots of things I've omitted

I have built a couple of race cars, and it is surprising how expensive it is ... and the most expensive way is to start with a new car off the showroom floor as you pay to remove stuff (HVAC - interior strip, pull redundant wiring - there is 40Kg of wiring to get rid of for instance).

The most cost effective way is to start with a shell, but that means putchasing all the "bits" you need (suspension, steering, driveline, etc), and then cosider CF guards (fender), doors, hatch - there is another 6-7K alone.

The NSIMO Fairlady Z RC "retails" at 12.5Mill Yen and IMHO that is a realtively cheap race car eligible for FIA GT4 championship. Note that the negine in this car is quoted at "more than 355ps" and according to my research the GT4 MISMO VQ37 engine makes around 440hp at 9000rpm with a 30-hour time to rebuild. Makes it a pretty good option in my book.

You need to comapre apples and apples ...

great info

Mike · 03-18-2013, 08:43 PM

I looked into the Ford Focus RS? I think that was the designation, anyhoo, its the same concept as the Nismo RC, a pure race car, thining it would be around 40 and make a great track day car before I converted my 370 over. It is 100k.

cossie1600 · 03-18-2013, 11:08 PM

Just spend $200K on a GT3 Cup and call it a day, plenty of racing series for it

03-18-2013, 02:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	It's not 100k difference. Gt academy does not use the nismo rc car. They have modified versions of the coupe sport models. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	You guys are forgetting the point of the NISMO RC, though. It's designed to go straight from the factory to FIA GT4 or World Challenge GTS competition. With some small tweaks it can run in the Continental Tire GS class. Good luck building your showroom Z into a competitive (and legal) FIA/SCCA/GrandAm competitor for $15k. JARblue and Rwilliams8586 like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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dP3NGU1N A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,682 Drives: 13 PW sport 6mt Rep Power: 18	Looks like TCIIIs? I imagine a real rear diff makes all the difference.

03-18-2013, 04:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	Nismo RC has a lot of difference though. Off the top of my head: "stripped" interior (never done I guess) Racing bucket seat race control panel area instead of the radio Race exhuaust Different wheels Brake cooling ducts Those two coolers with the radiators in the back. I'm guessing oil and diff? or perhaps one is for trans. Racing brakes Cage And i'm just gonna guess there's different suspension. So there is quite a lot of difference. 130k more is pretty ridiculous though. GT academy's could probably be replicated with 5k of mods and labor.

03-18-2013, 05:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
BGTV8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 03350 Australia Posts: 1,514 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z M6 Rep Power: 39973	The NISMO Fairlady Z RC has the following: 1. Full race brakes including Bosch motorpsort ABS figure $6K and $10k each 2. Body pulled out of the assembly line pre-paint - lacks seam-sealer, underbody paint protection and undercoat - $15K 3. Full FIA spec cage - to fit it, the roof panel is unpicked and removed 4. Once cage is fitted, body is seam welded, that would be 100+ hours of labour, figure $10K in labour alone, more if you are paying race fabrication hourly rates 5. Air-jacks supplied and plumbed - $10K 6. Diff and gearbox coolers supplied, installed and plumbed - $10K 7. Custom wiring harness - $5K 8. TE37 wheels and Yoki slicks - $6K - additional wheel sets @ $4K 9. Custom interior - seat, harness, switch gear, dash changes, FIA electrically controlled fire-bottle - $10K 10. Titanium exhaust and headers - $3K 11. Engine - $12K 12. Gearbox, carbon fibre tailshaft, diff, half-shafts etc - $10K 13. Suspension bits, hubs plus Ohlins TT44 shocks - $ 15K The total is north of $120K easily .............. and there are lots of things I've omitted I have built a couple of race cars, and it is surprising how expensive it is ... and the most expensive way is to start with a new car off the showroom floor as you pay to remove stuff (HVAC - interior strip, pull redundant wiring - there is 40Kg of wiring to get rid of for instance). The most cost effective way is to start with a shell, but that means putchasing all the "bits" you need (suspension, steering, driveline, etc), and then cosider CF guards (fender), doors, hatch - there is another 6-7K alone. The NSIMO Fairlady Z RC "retails" at 12.5Mill Yen and IMHO that is a realtively cheap race car eligible for FIA GT4 championship. Note that the negine in this car is quoted at "more than 355ps" and according to my research the GT4 MISMO VQ37 engine makes around 440hp at 9000rpm with a 30-hour time to rebuild. Makes it a pretty good option in my book. You need to comapre apples and apples ... m4a1mustang, Osiris, UNKNOWN_370 and 7 others like this.

03-18-2013, 05:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Good stuff, BG. Thanks for going into detail. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I looked into the Ford Focus RS? I think that was the designation, anyhoo, its the same concept as the Nismo RC, a pure race car, thining it would be around 40 and make a great track day car before I converted my 370 over. It is 100k. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Just spend $200K on a GT3 Cup and call it a day, plenty of racing series for it

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