The 370z confuses me...

clintfocus · 03-15-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

CTS-V and Camaro both best the Z on a road course.

Ru comparing current CTS-V or first gen CTS-V? stock for stock both the CTS and the Camaro come more power, but also more weight. The suspension geometry on the 370 is MUCH better then the camaro any day, the CTS has good suspension geo, but big weight penatly and the 1st gen CTS V's cant fit big rubber under stock body and have crap bolt pattern

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I provide you the info in links ans STILL....

Dude the Z doesn't belong on a track against a 1LE or a mustang track pack...

A challenger R/T?? Yeah the Z got it. But you guys are Z dilusional. Seriously. And if you gonna track your Z. PM me for a mod list. Cuz you may azz out on the track bruh.

I already track my Z, and run pretty damn fast already, and my mod list isnt even all that crazy. A experineced driver and a proper setup on the 370 can destroy alot on a road course thanks to the well enginneer chassis from the factory. Car fits big rubber to support its weight, has great camber curve dynamics front and rear, bump steer is minimal, rear anti sqaut is minimal, and the short wheel base makes it transition well

Nailzs · 03-15-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ajc1884

Cadillacs are for burnt out, boring, old men. Feel young, look young, drive a Z !!!!!! Feel like a new man!!!!!

Are a car salesman?

Z_ealot · 03-15-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The ZL-1 and 1LE packages give that connection. But why in this place we gotta have extreme Z lovers and Extreme mustang jockers. Why can't we appreciate the strengths in different cars.

You guys talk like the Z is the ONLY connected car on the road. I call BS on that.

I love my Z and in history, I got into some serious Z defending fights. but just because I love the z's attributes... Does this mean I can't appreciate other cars attributes???

Besides if you haven't test driven the 1LE???? How do you know??? The SS and 1LE feel like different cars dude. Making comparisons on a car yo've never driven???

dude i wasnt even talking about the driving characteristics of the 1LE and i'll be the first to admit its a great performer and just may provide the same road feel as the Z or better, but i was speaking more to the actual size of the car so dont get your panties all up in a bunch about it...the Z for me is just the right size for my personal tastes while the camaro is just a tad to big for my liking thats all.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-15-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus

Ru comparing current CTS-V or first gen CTS-V? stock for stock both the CTS and the Camaro come more power, but also more weight. The suspension geometry on the 370 is MUCH better then the camaro any day, the CTS has good suspension geo, but big weight penatly and the 1st gen CTS V's cant fit big rubber under stock body and have crap bolt pattern

I already track my Z, and run pretty damn fast already, and my mod list isnt even all that crazy. A experineced driver and a proper setup on the 370 can destroy alot on a road course thanks to the well enginneer chassis from the factory. Car fits big rubber to support its weight, has great camber curve dynamics front and rear, bump steer is minimal, rear anti sqaut is minimal, and the short wheel base makes it transition well

Mine isn't set up crazy but it needs to be done... That was my point. It's not like we're buying track ready cars..

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-16-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

dude i wasnt even talking about the driving characteristics of the 1LE and i'll be the first to admit its a great performer and just may provide the same road feel as the Z or better, but i was speaking more to the actual size of the car so dont get your panties all up in a bunch about it...the Z for me is just the right size for my personal tastes while the camaro is just a tad to big for my liking thats all.

I'm too long for panties but thanks... lol I'm just saying though dude. I prefer my car too but that 1LE puts it down and it's like people keep talkin' shyt just cuz I mention it as an example of a car seriously putting it down on the track bone stock (View lemon-fresh)... So you caught the brunt of it dude. My bad.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-16-2013, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I would love to drive the Camaro, I'm seriously disappointed in this manual z. The automatic z"s I drove felt faster than mine even with a fi exhaust. Nissan should stick to automatics

You can feel the torque a lot more in the automatic Z. So if you value responsiveness and a powerful feeling from the engine? The auto is a better bet.

NissanGuy23 · 03-16-2013, 12:08 AM

m1a4 and unknown have a habbit of just destroying any thread they come into, shoving mustang and camaros down everyones throats

m4a1mustang · 03-16-2013, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23

m1a4 and unknown have a habbit of just destroying any thread they come into, shoving mustang and camaros down everyones throats

Eh. I just correct misinformation when I see it. Not shoving anything down anyone's throat.

clintfocus · 03-16-2013, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Mine isn't set up crazy but it needs to be done... That was my point. It's not like we're buying track ready cars..

no stock car is really track ready with a fast driver behind the wheel, some are better setup then some like a Boss 302 laguna seca compaired to a ....base model 370 LOL, but yeah ive done stuff to my 370 to get it whre i want.

my point is i feel he Z34 chassis gets over looked because "o it needs a oil cooler" when in fact is has incredible suspension geometry and houses wide rubber. It has a high level of potential with not alot put into it, similar to S2k( when it comes to road course pace)

forza370z · 03-16-2013, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukesevi94

Okay so basically I'm looking to sell my Eclipse (don't buy one they're horrible), and get a new car. I've narrowed my choices to either a 370z or a first gen CTS-V. What I don't understand is, the Cadillac, even though heavier, does 0-60 in 4.7 and the Z with only 270 torque, also does it in 4.7

How is this possible? My Eclipse has 260 torque and does 0-60 in the high 5s. How can a car with 270 torque be equal to 60 with a car that has 395??? ( the V)

While an elephant has 4 strong legs and the awesome power to crash down a tree, how can an ostrich beat an elephant in 0-60 time with its broomstick-like 2 legs? How is this possible?

asdfsammich · 03-16-2013, 02:13 AM

Haha. Awesome paraphrase.

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SE5spd · 03-16-2013, 03:57 AM

CTSV are slow in turns anyways, esp 1st gen.

SV has caddi challange TT events and when they host at buttonwillow they host the track layout (ccw16) that has 3 HUGE straight aways compared to the normal track that has a bunch of turns.

lemon-fresh · 03-16-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm too long for panties but thanks... lol I'm just saying though dude. I prefer my car too but that 1LE puts it down and it's like people keep talkin' shyt just cuz I mention it as an example of a car seriously putting it down on the track bone stock (View lemon-fresh)... So you caught the brunt of it dude. My bad.

Never said it wasn't great on a track, was just pointing out the main reason why most ppl still don't care. The same goes for mustang although i do find it slightly less offensive due to a better power vs displacement vs weight ratio. If they make these cars smaller and a little more pleasing to look at (less redneck pinstripes) I don't think there'd be nearly as much to discuss.

Please don't respond to this post with speculation article links about the future of these cars either.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-17-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus

no stock car is really track ready with a fast driver behind the wheel, some are better setup then some like a Boss 302 laguna seca compaired to a ....base model 370 LOL, but yeah ive done stuff to my 370 to get it whre i want.

my point is i feel he Z34 chassis gets over looked because "o it needs a oil cooler" when in fact is has incredible suspension geometry and houses wide rubber. It has a high level of potential with not alot put into it, similar to S2k( when it comes to road course pace)

This I can agree with. But there are cars you can track right out the box. Chevy and ford usually make them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-17-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh

Never said it wasn't great on a track, was just pointing out the main reason why most ppl still don't care. The same goes for mustang although i do find it slightly less offensive due to a better power vs displacement vs weight ratio. If they make these cars smaller and a little more pleasing to look at (less redneck pinstripes) I don't think there'd be nearly as much to discuss.

Please don't respond to this post with speculation article links about the future of these cars either.

Don't have to respond with links. Your response is a weak over-opinionated response with nothing real behind it. I have nothing to say or link up cuz you have no facts behind it. No one cares yet camaros sell in 6 figures, we sell in four figures. I know what I've driven. I don't see why you think you're the surveyor of most people? But whatever. Some people just like to make forums a negative enviorment.

03-16-2013, 12:08 AM	#37 (permalink)
NissanGuy23 Track Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: West Chester, PA Age: 36 Posts: 752 Drives: 09 370Z NISMO PG 6MT Rep Power: 15	m1a4 and unknown have a habbit of just destroying any thread they come into, shoving mustang and camaros down everyones throats MJB and Sway like this.

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SE5spd Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 276 Drives: Z33 Rep Power: 13	CTSV are slow in turns anyways, esp 1st gen. SV has caddi challange TT events and when they host at buttonwillow they host the track layout (ccw16) that has 3 HUGE straight aways compared to the normal track that has a bunch of turns. clintfocus likes this. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/zndhnm

03-16-2013, 02:13 AM	#41 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 13	Haha. Awesome paraphrase. Tapatalk2 ...