Car and Driver's Cars Worth Waiting For: 2016 Z

axmea?

The rendering does not look right to begin with. It seems like there were two different points.

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Jordo!

Not crazy about the rendering, but who knows what we'll actually see on display, let alone at dealerships.

Sorta disappointed to learn weight may not be coming down all that much.

No special feeling on the type of motor -- what matters to me is power to weight, flat torque, and peak torque sooner than later.

Mixed feelings on the presence or lack thereof of a turbo. It's much easier to get nice gains when you have factory boost. That turbo 4 may turn out to be a real beast with some modest upgrades. Then again, it's hard to say without knowing more details -- again, the key ones for me being power:weight.

Still 3 more years to go. I can wait.

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Cmike2780

Not really "creeping up". That number is proposed for 2025. The number for 2016 is 35.5mpg for the entire fleet average. It's actually not that difficult and can easily be offset by EV's and hybrids Nissan already has. Also, If they go with direct injection, that alone should kick the number beyond 350hp. It's likely closer to the 375hp range. Going with efficient turbos and lowering the displacement is actually beneficial in achieving those goals, like Ford's EcoBoost. Look at it this way, even with the 2016 mandate, what we've seen in terms of performance hasn't meant slower sports cars....in fact, quite the opposite. They're forced to be lighter, more fuel efficient and still retain powerful engines.

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UNKNOWN_370

Not impressed with the stats for the upcoming Z in this article.

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ElVee

I'm no engine expert, but I'd trade "more horsepower" for "lighter weight" and "better torque;" something that makes me happy through all gears and rpms, rather than the low gears and sweet spots. That might mean turbo, but I wouldn't know since I've never driven a turbo car. >.<

I kinda like and don't like the rendering. That exaggerated headlight swoosh and quarter window point are awful, though. I *kinda* like that it looks like it was melted out of a block of ice, with lines created not via ridges but from curves. But that's really reaching. It otherwise has proportions like any ol' normal car, tbh. Depending on other view, this looks an awful lot like a smaller BMW.

Thank again, I love the 370 styling so much I can fap out some of my own QD spray, and I'm not sure anything will be better without being a huge change.

songbong

I saw this a couple weeks ago and the exact words came out of my mouth. Except the owning 2 nissans and 2 hondas. I only had 1 honda before my Z :P

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PapoZalsa

I guess Im keeping my 2009!

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FL 4Motion

I'll withhold any judgment on styling until we see the real thing, this is just a cobbled together pic for an article imo.

As far as them staying with an FM platform, it makes sense for a $$ saving perspective but it makes me a bit worried that it means verly little weight savings possibly and this car needs to shed an honest 100-200 lbs with similar power imo.

If it comes in around the same or a little lighter than the 370 and has 350-380 hp I'll probably replace our nismo with the next gen nismo

IF they address the biggest flaws the current car has: oil cooling, brake cooling, ice mode, fuel starve, lack of real lsd etc.

I hope since Nissan seems to be getting more serious about racing etc that the next Z won't need major aftermarket stuff to be truly trackable out of the box. fingers crossed.

Z_ealot

well according to the infiniti website the outgoing G37 base has a curb weight of 3633lbs. and the forthcoming Q50 base has a curb weight of 3574lbs. so around a 60lbs. reduction in weight with the new platform is what it looks like...throw in a manual transmission instead of the G's and Q's standard automatic transmission and i imagine a combined weight savings of approximately 100lbs. on the low end not counting if nissan decides to incorporate more aluminum in the construction of the next Z.

bdavis89

For "just under $35,000" the speculated specs will be a failure. The Z needs an overhaul if its going to be competitive at that price. People cross shop that with Mustang GTs and 3 series..design aside, I know I probably wouldn't pick the Z in 2016 if these specs turn out to be correct. At that point the new Mustang and Camaro platforms will be out. The Mustang has been rumored to be a couple hundred pounds lighter and possibly pushing 450hp. Some say the Z isn't necessarily a competitor of the muscle cars, but the consumers say otherwise.

With the refresh going back to the 350z front bumper, I think the next Z will have a much more conservative design approach.

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Tigger

That will be a sad year for the Z. They've lost their roots. They need to compete with the FRS/BRZ, get rid of VVEL, join the direct injection club and crush the 350hp range. And they need to start offering serious factory spec upgrades like the Mustang al a carte menu. Holy crap, every single stang out there is different from the next. They have become so personalized and "custom" straight from the factory that there is no need to mess with them. And they are looking damn good too. They still drive like boats but they are quickly coming along in terms of design. If Nissan took this approach and even offered a factory Z (GT type) vehicle pushing 550hp, they would certainly garner some attention. But let's face it. They're lazy. They don't want to put in the work or the effort to really create something special. They want to use an existing frame of a much larger vehicle. IMO, that is just bad business. At this rate, Hyundai is on track to crush the Z with their Genesis. Yup... I said it!

But if the Toyota Supra makes its way back into the market I'll be first in line. Not sure I'd let the Z go but she'll certainly remain undriven for extended period of time.

FL 4Motion

around 100lbs lighter with a bit more power and if it also has better balance/handling dynamics and that is gonna be a very good thing.

DLSTR

Word! Drive it over here and the current horsepower does not FAIL! Where do you want to use your power if you dont track in the US? Seriously give it up. You cant use the 3330+ now on the street or freeway on cruize at 72mph etc.

Its nice to brag at Cars and Coffee about your hp numbers but for the real world 330+ is a serious amount of power. Period.

Sway

That concept design looks hideous...

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Montez

I don't think any of us could handle 3330 h/p on the streets..... I know what you mean (33*hp).