Car and Driver's Cars Worth Waiting For: 2016 Z

Chuck33079

You do realize that they'll kill the car if it doesn't make them money, right?

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seizer8

To me the new design looks too tall in the roof line. It takes away from the sleekness the car has now. Could just be the concept rendering, but I hope it's lower to the ground than this.

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asdfsammich

I hope you're right. It need to be GTR-like not by competing with the GTR segment (super cars) but GTR-like because they figure out how to make it perform best in it's own segment (sports car/coupes) while still being less costly.

Evolving from these ideas and our current looks would be a huge win.



Exactly. I hope the render and the rumors are way off.



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UNKNOWN_370

Yeah, the Z doesn't need to copy Mustang, Corvette or any American cars like so many suggest. We don't need to copy, drive or feel like them behind the wheel. We just need to look in our own Z history and see what worked in the best Z's and combine it.

If people think the Z should beat stangs etc... I think people should plan on buying stangs etc in their future.
Just remember this is a Z forum when you go on the other side...


I think that render is a massive fake. I think C&D's info is unimpressive, false "gahbidge".

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doink

Its all about price. 370z came put right during the recession with a price increase. Majority will agree that they love the car and the looks but its just expensive. Look at the BRZ/FRS market. They are slow as hell, cheap interior but very stylish exterior. Cheap price and they are flying off the lots. I bet if the z is 20k, it would easily beat camero/ mustang sales.

But I do love the exclusivity. Its just a nich market, either they cant afford it, or if they do.... perfer more high end market.

BigT

My boss bought a fully loaded, auto 350z back in 2003 for 29k out the door. I fully loaded 370z in 2009 was 40k. The target market changed quite a bit and affected sales. Most 370Z owners are older guys with money. But, its the young guys that are buying car's by the butt load. Unfortunately, not many young guys can afford in the 30 to 40k price range and the ones that can are buying Evo's and STI's.

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zeeder

You can't really compare someone getting a great deal with MSRP. In 2003, MSRP for a fully loaded 350 was about $36-37k iirc.

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Z_ealot

yeah, gonna have to disagree with you as i am one of those young guys and would much rather have the Z over those other two options. As far as the 350Z when it came out in 2003 the fully loaded MSRP was around $36k so i'd say thats not very much of an increase for a fully loaded Z, your boss was just good at minipulating the dealer is all to get that $29k price he did. one interesting thing i did note however when reading a motortrend article for the 350Z when it came out was that even back then they were complaining about the interior noise on the 350Z lol.

Z_ealot

Found a little bit more news to fuel the fire here, Bank of America/Merrill Lynch car wars analysis forecast just came out and while the main parts of the article are about the upcoming mazda3 they do mention redesigns of the GT-R and Z as coming out in 2017, here's the link to the article for anyone who wants a quick read: We Hear: 2015 Mazda3 Accidentally Revealed? - WOT on Motor Trend

b15

Do people that keep bringing up base prices of 350z vs 370z have an understanding of the global economy and what has happened to the yen over the years? It seems the vast majority of people think Nissan just throws an arbitrary price on the Z and calls it a day. Keep in mind this car is not built in the US and how that impacts pricing compared to a Mustang...

UNKNOWN_370

You're asking people to think man. Shame on you!!

LOL, jk, but nissan still has some control and in a couple of areas can do a better job for the price. Look at what features make it over in luxury company brands that start in the mid $30's. Nissan can still invest another $1,000-1,500 in the cars and still turn a good profit

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/Angelo350Z/

I would pay between $50K to $60K for a 400+ hp Z that weighs close to 3100 lbs and can compete with a 911 Carrera S. I wouldn't mind paying more for a little more exclusivity and performance.

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UNKNOWN_370

Would you really? That Z better change to an MR platform for that kinda money. You're buggin!!! PDK and other upscale tech is a huge reason for porsche upcost. We don't have tech like that to be paying that much money.I think the american car market proved you can have over 400hp for 33k. Add Z quality to it. $43k

Ughh... The Z benchmarks as a budget Cayman, not 911.

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/Angelo350Z/

Sure, why not? How much is a base Corvette? Can you think of a modern muscle car that weighs close to 3100 lbs? So yes, I would pay that much for that kind of a Z.

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b15

Agree, they can tweak some things but its still a great package out of the box for the price.