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For "just under $35,000" the speculated specs will be a failure. The Z needs an overhaul if its going to be competitive at that price. People cross shop that with

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Old 05-23-2013, 09:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For "just under $35,000" the speculated specs will be a failure. The Z needs an overhaul if its going to be competitive at that price. People cross shop that with Mustang GTs and 3 series..design aside, I know I probably wouldn't pick the Z in 2016 if these specs turn out to be correct. At that point the new Mustang and Camaro platforms will be out. The Mustang has been rumored to be a couple hundred pounds lighter and possibly pushing 450hp. Some say the Z isn't necessarily a competitor of the muscle cars, but the consumers say otherwise.

With the refresh going back to the 350z front bumper, I think the next Z will have a much more conservative design approach.

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That will be a sad year for the Z. They've lost their roots. They need to compete with the FRS/BRZ, get rid of VVEL, join the direct injection club and crush the 350hp range. And they need to start offering serious factory spec upgrades like the Mustang al a carte menu. Holy crap, every single stang out there is different from the next. They have become so personalized and "custom" straight from the factory that there is no need to mess with them. And they are looking damn good too. They still drive like boats but they are quickly coming along in terms of design. If Nissan took this approach and even offered a factory Z (GT type) vehicle pushing 550hp, they would certainly garner some attention. But let's face it. They're lazy. They don't want to put in the work or the effort to really create something special. They want to use an existing frame of a much larger vehicle. IMO, that is just bad business. At this rate, Hyundai is on track to crush the Z with their Genesis. Yup... I said it!

But if the Toyota Supra makes its way back into the market I'll be first in line. Not sure I'd let the Z go but she'll certainly remain undriven for extended period of time.
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That concept design looks hideous...
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Concept drawings never look ANYTHING like the final design. All I hope is that they hire the same designer (I forget his name ATM) who designed the 370z, because I trust his design skills after putting out this sexy machine.
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I hate it I don't understand why all These articles keep insisting on bringing the z back to its Datsun days.... Those days are long gone the z has evolved into something great why knock it down from a mid range sports car to an entry level sports car? Why wouldn't they just revive the s chassis? Leave the z alone don't kill it
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I hate it I don't understand why all These articles keep insisting on bringing the z back to its Datsun days.... Those days are long gone the z has evolved into something great why knock it down from a mid range sports car to an entry level sports car? Why wouldn't they just revive the s chassis? Leave the z alone don't kill it
The price is killing the Z. It happened with the last 300z and its happening now. Part of the reason the 350 did so well was because it was relatively cheap.
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The price is killing the Z. It happened with the last 300z and its happening now. Part of the reason the 350 did so well was because it was relatively cheap.
This is the problem in a nutshell. It needs to be better to compete at its current price point, but the improvements cost money. It's a fine line between improving the car and killing sales with the price. I'd hate for the Z to get killed off again because the market won't support a $45-50k Z. It'll never have Mustang/Camaro sales. It's much more of a niche product than the domestic pony cars.
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I actually wouldnt mind a turbo 4 banger, but that grill rendering suuuuuuucks. looks like an altima/maxima
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This is NOT a High HP discussion thread!!

Lets Keep It On Topic!

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Still looks like a BRZ...

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Looks like a Genesis Coupe.
I don't like it.
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+ power - weight - price = success
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I'm going to speculate that most of this guy's speculation is just speculative and wrong. There, I said it.
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I'm going to speculate that most of this guy's speculation is just speculative and wrong. There, I said it.
And i hope you're right because next gen, we need something fresh. The Jay Leno interview at Nissan sounded like they wanted to give us something truely special. So from your lips to Japans ears bruh.
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Keep the rims, ditch the rest and start over.....
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