Build Quality Issues

Jaws12 · 07-16-2009, 03:57 PM

Since discovering the gapping problem with my factory installed splash guards, which are all being replaced under warranty because they are "deformed" according to my tech, I really have started going over the car with a fine tooth comb.

I have been checking the body panel fitment and have noticed that space seperating the panels on the rear quarter in front of the rear wheels is misaligned. I actually spent an hour gently pully and pushing to get the panels to line up. I hope they stay in the position I got them to.

That, along with my off-center passenger side exhaust tip, makes me wonder if anyone else is disappointed in the build quality. I have ZERO rattles, no mechanical issues, just body fitment issues.

Am I alone in this?

kannibul · 07-16-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws12

Since discovering the gapping problem with my factory installed splash guards, which are all being replaced under warranty because they are "deformed" according to my tech, I really have started going over the car with a fine tooth comb.

I have been checking the body panel fitment and have noticed that space seperating the panels on the rear quarter in front of the rear wheels is misaligned. I actually spent an hour gently pully and pushing to get the panels to line up. I hope they stay in the position I got them to.

That, along with my off-center passenger side exhaust tip, makes me wonder if anyone else is disappointed in the build quality. I have ZERO rattles, no mechanical issues, just body fitment issues.

Am I alone in this?

I think the gaps for the rear-hatch are too large, but, what do I know...

Cars are built with tolerances in mind. Perhaps it wasn't fitment, but the heat working those panels out of place...

m4a1mustang · 07-16-2009, 04:17 PM

Other than a rattle the build quality is top notch. Beats the crap out of my old Mustang.

cave vulture · 07-16-2009, 04:31 PM

Any ideas where the rattle in the hatch area comes from? I have the same problem.

Jason Burton · 07-21-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Beats the crap out of my old Mustang.

My sentiments exactly... even with the short time I've had my Z (1700 miles) I'm much more satisfied with the build quality and overall execution as compared to my '07 Mustang GT.

Island_370 · 07-16-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaws12

Since discovering the gapping problem with my factory installed splash guards, which are all being replaced under warranty because they are "deformed" according to my tech, I really have started going over the car with a fine tooth comb.

I have been checking the body panel fitment and have noticed that space seperating the panels on the rear quarter in front of the rear wheels is misaligned. I actually spent an hour gently pully and pushing to get the panels to line up. I hope they stay in the position I got them to.

That, along with my off-center passenger side exhaust tip, makes me wonder if anyone else is disappointed in the build quality. I have ZERO rattles, no mechanical issues, just body fitment issues.

Am I alone in this?

You bought an inexpensive, but very sporty, sports car. If you want high fit and finish and sport, buy a Porsche, Aston Martin, and Audi R8 or an AMG.

Sorry.

The 370 is great and very well built--for what I can tell so far. But I am not expecting perfect body panel gaps, perfect dashboard alignment, etc. If I want that, I would not have bought a Nissan.

dad · 07-16-2009, 06:01 PM

In Depth: 2009's Highest-Quality Cars - Nissan Z - Forbes.com

azn370z · 07-16-2009, 06:02 PM

Actualy the Japanese cars have fairly good fit and finish. The 370 is supposed to be better than the 350z. Before I bought my z I examined every gap and panel allignment. You don't have to buy a Porsche to get good fit and finish.

nicknick · 07-16-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

Actualy the Japanese cars have fairly good fit and finish. The 370 is supposed to be better than the 350z. Before I bought my z I examined every gap and panel allignment. You don't have to buy a Porsche to get good fit and finish.

Exactly.

nicknick · 07-16-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Island_370

You bought an inexpensive, but very sporty, sports car. If you want high fit and finish and sport, buy a Porsche, Aston Martin, and Audi R8 or an AMG.

Sorry.

The 370 is great and very well built--for what I can tell so far. But I am not expecting perfect body panel gaps, perfect dashboard alignment, etc. If I want that, I would not have bought a Nissan.

Your one of those. Those people that believe, the more you for something then it just has to better. Just to let you know, this way of thinking isn't necessarily true.

Island_370 · 07-16-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nicknick

Your one of those. Those people that believe, the more you for something then it just has to better. Just to let you know, this way of thinking isn't necessarily true.

I do not think that if it is more expensive, it is automatically better. But I do firmly believe that one should not put more quality into a product than the consumer is willing to pay for. People that are willing to pay $100K for a car are willing to pay for more quality.

To me, the 370 is a great value by a combination of performance, reliability and quality for a very good price. If I wanted full leather, lower road noise, etc...I expect to pay more.

Have we met? Just curious why you are making gross blanket statements about me and seem to think you are in a position to give me advice on life.

nicknick · 07-16-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Island_370

I do not think that if it is more expensive, it is automatically better. But I do firmly believe that one should not put more quality into a product than the consumer is willing to pay for. People that are willing to pay $100K for a car are willing to pay for more quality.

To me, the 370 is a great value by a combination of performance, reliability and quality for a very good price. If I wanted full leather, lower road noise, etc...I expect to pay more.

Have we met? Just curious why you are making gross blanket statements about me and seem to think you are in a position to give me advice on life.

I think you are confusing the term quality. quality as i see it means that something has been built to exact specs, will last a long time and has no mistakes. A full leather interior is simply a feature and has nothing to do with quality. just because a car has more features does not mean it is better quality, it just means it has more features, that's it.

antennahead · 07-16-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Island_370

I do not think that if it is more expensive, it is automatically better. But I do firmly believe that one should not put more quality into a product than the consumer is willing to pay for. People that are willing to pay $100K for a car are willing to pay for more quality.

To me, the 370 is a great value by a combination of performance, reliability and quality for a very good price. If I wanted full leather, lower road noise, etc...I expect to pay more.

Have we met? Just curious why you are making gross blanket statements about me and seem to think you are in a position to give me advice on life.

"Have we met? Just curious why you are making gross blanket statements about me and seem to think you are in a position to give me advice on life."

Unfortunately, that seems to exist on any forum, concerning any product or hobby........... how you handle such issues can define you.

John

dad · 07-16-2009, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island_370

I do not think that if it is more expensive, it is automatically better. But I do firmly believe that one should not put more quality into a product than the consumer is willing to pay for. People that are willing to pay $100K for a car are willing to pay for more quality.

To me, the 370 is a great value by a combination of performance, reliability and quality for a very good price. If I wanted full leather, lower road noise, etc...I expect to pay more.

Have we met? Just curious why you are making gross blanket statements about me and seem to think you are in a position to give me advice on life.

There is such a thing as "overpriced"! Which the Z is not!

tbonesteak · 07-16-2009, 06:01 PM

If you think the 370 is bad, u should see my SL550 that i use ONLY for work. HAAAAAA it costs 100k and build quality is.......hmm. let's say poor is an understatement. i hate that car with passion. Most horribly engineered car in every aspect.

07-16-2009, 03:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jaws12 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 31 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 16	Build Quality Issues Since discovering the gapping problem with my factory installed splash guards, which are all being replaced under warranty because they are "deformed" according to my tech, I really have started going over the car with a fine tooth comb. I have been checking the body panel fitment and have noticed that space seperating the panels on the rear quarter in front of the rear wheels is misaligned. I actually spent an hour gently pully and pushing to get the panels to line up. I hope they stay in the position I got them to. That, along with my off-center passenger side exhaust tip, makes me wonder if anyone else is disappointed in the build quality. I have ZERO rattles, no mechanical issues, just body fitment issues. Am I alone in this? __________________ 2009 370Z Touring, Sport, 7AT, Mats, Splash Guards,Leguna Blue/Black

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Other than a rattle the build quality is top notch. Beats the crap out of my old Mustang. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	In Depth: 2009's Highest-Quality Cars - Nissan Z - Forbes.com __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	Actualy the Japanese cars have fairly good fit and finish. The 370 is supposed to be better than the 350z. Before I bought my z I examined every gap and panel allignment. You don't have to buy a Porsche to get good fit and finish. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

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