Build Quality Issues

cave vulture · 07-22-2009, 04:25 PM

But what is causing the rattle, that is the question?

Modshack · 07-22-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cave vulture

But what is causing the rattle, that is the question?

Have you looked around? Lifted up the carpet? Checked that the jack and tools are in place?
You just need to track it down. Complaining about it doesnt accomplish that..

Robert_Nash · 07-22-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Have you looked around? Lifted up the carpet? Checked that the jack and tools are in place?
You just need to track it down. Complaining about it doesnt accomplish that..

I would agree...there are things in the rear hatch area that "could" cause a rattle but I would think it could be nailed down by going over everything/trying to find something loose - a great starting point is the spare tire/jack, etc.

If, however it's something coming from the suspension, etc...that could be more problematic and more difficult to find.

need4speed · 07-22-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaws12

Reading the replies to my original post is making me a bit annoyed.

First of all, I agree with the fact that "Quality" has nothing to do with features.

I have owned all of the high-end sports cars accept Aston Martin, Lambo, and Ferrari. I currently own a 2008 C2S Cab and I have owned many P-cars, Vettes, AMGs, M cars, XKR, Maserati, etc... I am fortunate enough to afford whatever car I choose.

If you think quality has to do with features than Porsche would have awful quality. Unless you pay crazy prices for options they come pretty bare bones (manual seats, crappy stereo, no bluetooth, no heated seats, etc...). But the car screams quality because it is put together well.

Vettes have terrible quality and they are priced much higher than a Z. Crappy interior, outdated NAV/Stereo, awful seats, etc... They rattle and squeak like crazy. Great car, great fun, but quality is sad.

I bought the Z as a daily driver that is fun, comfortable, and reliable. I can leave it at the airport or shopping mall and not panic about whats happening with it. But it still is a $40k car (fully loaded) or at worst a mid-$30ks car) and should be assembled as well as an Infiniti or Lexus in the same price range, considering it is made in Japan in the same factory as the G37 I believe. To me the car's greatest selling points are the bang for buck factor and the beautiful lines of the car. Great value. But if it isn't put together well it ruins the experience, and, quite honestly, the competition in this pricepoint is fierce (RX8, Camaro SS, Base Vette, G, Z4, Mustang GT, Genesis Coupe, 135, etc...) and, while I chose the Z and feel it is the better of all of the competition, I expect to have a car that is put together well.

After 1 week, I have had the original car replaced because of a huge paint defect from the factory, the factory splash guards not fit properly, the body panels not aligned, crooked exhaust tips. All minor and easily fixed, but makes me worry about reliability and longevity.

Sorry so long, but I don't like when people where blinders or feel the need to justify deficiencies so they dont feel inferior. Expect quality and demand it, you will be suprised how much you get.

Well said. Well spoken. Whether we agree or disagree ( which I mostly agree) we ahould respect peoples opinions and have discussions with respect.
I can tell by the way a lot of people write on here. They need this car to define them as a man.
The lack of respect for peoples opinion in the forum is gettin outta control.
Everyone in here is a lover of the same car. Whether we have positive or negative posts.
We should do it to aid in uplifting the brand. Not belittling each others opinions.
We will all have different experiences in life. Share n help or give ur experience.
End the mocking and downtalking already.
If owning a Z makes u a better man in your mind? Then u r still not a man yet.
A real man is defined by the respect he has for self and others.

tommyguns · 07-22-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by need4speed

Well said. Well spoken. Whether we agree or disagree ( which I mostly agree) we ahould respect peoples opinions and have discussions with respect.
I can tell by the way a lot of people write on here. They need this car to define them as a man.
The lack of respect for peoples opinion in the forum is gettin outta control.
Everyone in here is a lover of the same car. Whether we have positive or negative posts.
We should do it to aid in uplifting the brand. Not belittling each others opinions.
We will all have different experiences in life. Share n help or give ur experience.
End the mocking and downtalking already.
If owning a Z makes u a better man in your mind? Then u r still not a man yet.
A real man is defined by the respect he has for self and others.

BRAVO!

antennahead · 07-22-2009, 08:52 PM

The ability to disagree respectfully, while respecting the opinion of your fellow Z member, is what makes this place a fun site to belong to. God help us if it were to ever turn into that "other" site

John

khtso · 07-22-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cave vulture

But what is causing the rattle, that is the question?

Do a search, the rattle on mine, and on others, stems from the middle rear brake light assembly. I plan to order the gasket so I can remove it and somehow figure out a fix.... When I decide to not be lazy.

ZKindaGuy · 07-23-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bluzman

50% of the 370Zs?? I call BS.

I agree with you, however instead of just calling

, I would have preceded it with "50% - a figure that was directly pulled straight out of your

"....that would have made what you said a bit more precise...

ZKindaGuy · 07-23-2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed

Well said. Well spoken. Whether we agree or disagree ( which I mostly agree) we ahould respect peoples opinions and have discussions with respect.
I can tell by the way a lot of people write on here. They need this car to define them as a man.
The lack of respect for peoples opinion in the forum is gettin outta control.
Everyone in here is a lover of the same car. Whether we have positive or negative posts.
We should do it to aid in uplifting the brand. Not belittling each others opinions.
We will all have different experiences in life. Share n help or give ur experience.
End the mocking and downtalking already.
If owning a Z makes u a better man in your mind? Then u r still not a man yet.
A real man is defined by the respect he has for self and others.

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Originally Posted by tommyguns

BRAVO!

Now I call all that

. I will respect the fact that a person can post an opinion....but I don't have to respect the fact foundation of an argument they are making in their posting no matter if we own or like the same car or not.

Attacking what the person says is not attacking the person. Unfortunately you and a majority of others who have bought into the

idea of POLITICAL CORRECT communication have grossly mistaken the two entirely different things as being one-and-the-same.

I don't have a problem with the person posting an opinion..but when some one posts something and then bolsters their statement with some illogical non-fact pattern or some statistical measure that is pulled right out of the poster's

then yes I am going to attack the argument. And yes I might even fling a little personal piece of poo at them too since I had to wade through the uninformed and unsupported

they used to support their opinion.

If a person is going to post an opinion, then in my books, make it an educated opinion...not something completely pulled from their heart, butt or from some magician's hat.

MacDaddy · 07-23-2009, 12:24 AM

Wel mine rattles, and I have already had the 3rd brake light changed (only half of it worked), I took all the stuff in the back out and still had the rattle. The interesting thing is the ratlle does seem to come from the back, usually on roads where the suspension is really working the bumps...and when the hatch is opened and closed it then goes away for awaile...........who knows???????????

Pushing_Tin · 07-23-2009, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluzman

50% of the 370Zs?? I call BS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

I agree with you, however instead of just calling

, I would have preceded it with "50% - a figure that was directly pulled straight out of your

"....that would have made what you said a bit more precise...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

It seems like 50% of the cars have this same rattle.

Search: rattles: Showing results 1 to 25 of 104
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Search: rattle Showing results 1 to 25 of 182
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Please read. I said "IT SEEMS LIKE" 50% of the Zs have this problem. Obviously I have not conducted a phone or e-mail survery. I just happen to see the rattle listed as a common complaint.

I hope this clears it up for you.

vehl · 07-23-2009, 03:39 AM

I've got rattles from the hatch cover, and now the middle cabin (where the nav should be).

ZKindaGuy · 07-23-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

Search: rattles: Showing results 1 to 25 of 104
Search took 0.04 seconds

Search: rattle Showing results 1 to 25 of 182
Search took 0.04 seconds

Please read. I said "IT SEEMS LIKE" 50% of the Zs have this problem. Obviously I have not conducted a phone or e-mail survery. I just happen to see the rattle listed as a common complaint.

I hope this clears it up for you.

OK but you have no idea weather the search hitws are all independently unique of each other or are duplicated postings from a limited number of individuals or just blog propogations. In other words your "search hit" universe is certainly suspect to make the 50% claims you are making.

Alexus · 07-23-2009, 01:21 PM

Nissan is rather notorious for rattles... every Nissan I've been in thus far had somesort of a rattle or squeaky door problem. Facts are, if you wanted to be certain you wouldn't have any rattles, you would've bought a Porsche.

Modshack · 07-23-2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

I don't have a problem with the person posting an opinion..but when some one posts something and then bolsters their statement with some illogical non-fact pattern or some statistical measure that is pulled right out of the poster's

then yes I am going to attack the argument. And yes I might even fling a little personal piece of poo at them too since I had to wade through the uninformed and unsupported

they used to support their opinion.

If a person is going to post an opinion, then in my books, make it an educated opinion...not something completely pulled from their heart, butt or from some magician's hat.

LOL....I Think I know of whom you speak...

07-23-2009, 01:21 PM	#44 (permalink)
Alexus Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 178 Drives: The Beast Rep Power: 17	Nissan is rather notorious for rattles... every Nissan I've been in thus far had somesort of a rattle or squeaky door problem. Facts are, if you wanted to be certain you wouldn't have any rattles, you would've bought a Porsche. __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George S. Patton Jr., 1885-1945

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MacDaddy Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NRH2O, Texas Posts: 32 Drives: 09 370Z MB 7AT Rep Power: 16	Wel mine rattles, and I have already had the 3rd brake light changed (only half of it worked), I took all the stuff in the back out and still had the rattle. The interesting thing is the ratlle does seem to come from the back, usually on roads where the suspension is really working the bumps...and when the hatch is opened and closed it then goes away for awaile...........who knows???????????

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vehl Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: asia Posts: 140 Drives: 370z PW/ GTI Rep Power: 17	I've got rattles from the hatch cover, and now the middle cabin (where the nav should be).