Originally Posted by cave vulture (Post 121731)

But what is causing the rattle, that is the question?

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 121738)

Have you looked around? Lifted up the carpet? Checked that the jack and tools are in place?
You just need to track it down. Complaining about it doesnt accomplish that..

Originally Posted by Jaws12 (Post 116338)

Reading the replies to my original post is making me a bit annoyed.

First of all, I agree with the fact that "Quality" has nothing to do with features.

I have owned all of the high-end sports cars accept Aston Martin, Lambo, and Ferrari. I currently own a 2008 C2S Cab and I have owned many P-cars, Vettes, AMGs, M cars, XKR, Maserati, etc... I am fortunate enough to afford whatever car I choose.

If you think quality has to do with features than Porsche would have awful quality. Unless you pay crazy prices for options they come pretty bare bones (manual seats, crappy stereo, no bluetooth, no heated seats, etc...). But the car screams quality because it is put together well.

Vettes have terrible quality and they are priced much higher than a Z. Crappy interior, outdated NAV/Stereo, awful seats, etc... They rattle and squeak like crazy. Great car, great fun, but quality is sad.

I bought the Z as a daily driver that is fun, comfortable, and reliable. I can leave it at the airport or shopping mall and not panic about whats happening with it. But it still is a $40k car (fully loaded) or at worst a mid-$30ks car) and should be assembled as well as an Infiniti or Lexus in the same price range, considering it is made in Japan in the same factory as the G37 I believe. To me the car's greatest selling points are the bang for buck factor and the beautiful lines of the car. Great value. But if it isn't put together well it ruins the experience, and, quite honestly, the competition in this pricepoint is fierce (RX8, Camaro SS, Base Vette, G, Z4, Mustang GT, Genesis Coupe, 135, etc...) and, while I chose the Z and feel it is the better of all of the competition, I expect to have a car that is put together well.

After 1 week, I have had the original car replaced because of a huge paint defect from the factory, the factory splash guards not fit properly, the body panels not aligned, crooked exhaust tips. All minor and easily fixed, but makes me worry about reliability and longevity.

Sorry so long, but I don't like when people where blinders or feel the need to justify deficiencies so they dont feel inferior. Expect quality and demand it, you will be suprised how much you get.

Originally Posted by need4speed (Post 121929)

Well said. Well spoken. Whether we agree or disagree ( which I mostly agree) we ahould respect peoples opinions and have discussions with respect.
I can tell by the way a lot of people write on here. They need this car to define them as a man.
The lack of respect for peoples opinion in the forum is gettin outta control.
Everyone in here is a lover of the same car. Whether we have positive or negative posts.
We should do it to aid in uplifting the brand. Not belittling each others opinions.
We will all have different experiences in life. Share n help or give ur experience.
End the mocking and downtalking already.
If owning a Z makes u a better man in your mind? Then u r still not a man yet.
A real man is defined by the respect he has for self and others.

Originally Posted by cave vulture (Post 121731)

But what is causing the rattle, that is the question?

Originally Posted by bluzman (Post 121699)

50% of the 370Zs?? I call BS.

Originally Posted by need4speed (Post 121929)

Well said. Well spoken. Whether we agree or disagree ( which I mostly agree) we ahould respect peoples opinions and have discussions with respect.
I can tell by the way a lot of people write on here. They need this car to define them as a man.
The lack of respect for peoples opinion in the forum is gettin outta control.
Everyone in here is a lover of the same car. Whether we have positive or negative posts.
We should do it to aid in uplifting the brand. Not belittling each others opinions.
We will all have different experiences in life. Share n help or give ur experience.
End the mocking and downtalking already.
If owning a Z makes u a better man in your mind? Then u r still not a man yet.
A real man is defined by the respect he has for self and others.

Originally Posted by bluzman (Post 121699)

50% of the 370Zs?? I call BS.

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 122136)

:iagree: I agree with you, however instead of just calling :bs:, I would have preceded it with "50% - a figure that was directly pulled straight out of your :icon23: "....that would have made what you said a bit more precise...

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 121653)

It seems like 50% of the cars have this same rattle.

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 122316)

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Please read. I said "IT SEEMS LIKE" 50% of the Zs have this problem. Obviously I have not conducted a phone or e-mail survery. I just happen to see the rattle listed as a common complaint.

I hope this clears it up for you. :hello:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 122159)

I don't have a problem with the person posting an opinion..but when some one posts something and then bolsters their statement with some illogical non-fact pattern or some statistical measure that is pulled right out of the poster's :icon23: then yes I am going to attack the argument. And yes I might even fling a little personal piece of poo at them too since I had to wade through the uninformed and unsupported :bs: they used to support their opinion.

If a person is going to post an opinion, then in my books, make it an educated opinion...not something completely pulled from their heart, butt or from some magician's hat.

:owned: