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Old 02-27-2013, 04:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
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IMO, people really underestimate the potential in electric engines. Being able to harness 100% of torque from 0 rpm is a pretty impressive feat.

While we have a ways to go, I feel that electric engines coupled with inductive recharging will be the future for the typical commuter. I do hope, though, that the market continues to embrace old fossil-fuel vehicles, even if the fuel for them may be very expensive.
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IMO, people really underestimate the potential in electric engines. Being able to harness 100% of torque from 0 rpm is a pretty impressive feat.

While we have a ways to go, I feel that electric engines coupled with inductive recharging will be the future for the typical commuter. I do hope, though, that the market continues to embrace old fossil-fuel vehicles, even if the fuel for them may be very expensive.
In the whole history of electric cars they have NEVER been able to beat 100 miles when the driver actually drives the electric car normally.
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In the whole history of electric cars they have NEVER been able to beat 100 miles when the driver actually drives the electric car normally.
... Um... Can you say Tesla? My aunt has a Tesla S (performance 85kWh), and she says she confidently drives 250 miles before feeling like she needs to charge it... And she isn't exactly a slow driver



Honestly though, the issue is charge time and battery life... I think the next frontier is Hydrogen... They just need an economic way of separating H2 from O
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... Um... Can you say Tesla? My aunt has a Tesla S (performance 85kWh), and she says she confidently drives 250 miles before feeling like she needs to charge it... And she isn't exactly a slow driver



Honestly though, the issue is charge time and battery life... I think the next frontier is Hydrogen... They just need an economic way of separating H2 from O
How many "normal" people will put out over $100,000 for an electric car as their DD?
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How many "normal" people will put out over $100,000 for an electric car as their DD?
Actually a good bit, remember a lot of people spend that much or more a Mercedes or BMW or Porsche daily driver.
I agree the charge time is a huge issues, but for racing that is an easy fix. You have battery packs ready to go & are able to hot swap them out during pit stops.
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Actually a good bit, remember a lot of people spend that much or more a Mercedes or BMW or Porsche daily driver.
I agree the charge time is a huge issues, but for racing that is an easy fix. You have battery packs ready to go & are able to hot swap them out during pit stops.
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IMO, people really underestimate the potential in electric engines. Being able to harness 100% of torque from 0 rpm is a pretty impressive feat.

While we have a ways to go, I feel that electric engines coupled with inductive recharging will be the future for the typical commuter. I do hope, though, that the market continues to embrace old fossil-fuel vehicles, even if the fuel for them may be very expensive.
Where's your exhaust sound?
Where's the shifter?
Where's that torquey feel from changing gears?
where's the handbrake to drift into a corner.
Wheres the fun in modding it outside of buying a deluxe battery pack?
Where's the soul of the car?
wheres the exhaust port? Car has no balls. Just going fast don't mean shyt. Otherwise we'd all be owning FWd monte carlo SS's and Altima 3.5 coupes. Those are in the same speed range as our Z's.

Electric= Booooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggg!!!!

The irony is people who complain about CVT also praise electric cars. Electric is like CVT on crack.
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It's true that electric cars, at this point in time, are "boring" compared to vehicles with more mechanical bits that people can play with, hence my comment about electric cars being perfect for commuters.

I don't feel that electric technology as it exists right this very second does justice to the prospective advantages the technology has to offer.

As battery weight and size comes down, efficiency goes up, and charging times are reduced, the pluses and minuses of staying with a fossil fuel vehicle versus a hybrid or pure electric will become more even. Right now, I wouldn't consider buying anything other than a petrol-powered sports car.

However, the future is in battery-powered tech. That's just the reality of the situation, and I'm excited to see all the advances that will come out over the next few decades.
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Where's your exhaust sound?
Where's the shifter?
Where's that torquey feel from changing gears?
where's the handbrake to drift into a corner.
Wheres the fun in modding it outside of buying a deluxe battery pack?
Where's the soul of the car?
wheres the exhaust port? Car has no balls. Just going fast don't mean shyt. Otherwise we'd all be owning FWd monte carlo SS's and Altima 3.5 coupes. Those are in the same speed range as our Z's.

Electric= Booooooorrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggg!!!!

The irony is people who complain about CVT also praise electric cars. Electric is like CVT on crack.
What will probably happen is a recording of the exhaust note will play when you hit the gas peddle.

I think that's what they were doing in that movie, The Dilemma. That will become reality soon if electric keeps moving forward.
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Actually a good bit, remember a lot of people spend that much or more a Mercedes or BMW or Porsche daily driver.
Sure isn't the majority of cars seen on the road, and I'm sure that aren't many of those people buying high end cars would wait the time required to charge a Tesla on a trip.
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I've only ever seen one Tesla on the road (well, parking lot).

Wasn't bad looking, but you could have so much better for the money, IMO. And at 245m/charge it's not that impressive (the Roadster).

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What will probably happen is a recording of the exhaust note will play when you hit the gas peddle.

I think that's what they were doing in that movie, The Dilemma. That will become reality soon if electric keeps moving forward.
Volkswagen back in 2007 were working on this project for future electric vehicles. Funny thing. I haven't seeen and Elec vw yet. lol
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Sure isn't the majority of cars seen on the road, and I'm sure that aren't many of those people buying high end cars would wait the time required to charge a Tesla on a trip.
Well of course not, many factors. Tesla does not have the facilities to produce them fast enough, and it is not mainstream. If I had the money and needed a luxury daily, I would honestly consider it. Remember for many of these people they do not drive more than what is in their home city. If they travel they fly, so needing a car that can go from NY to LA with minimal stops is not on their mind.
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