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scruffydog 02-19-2013 10:24 AM

Nismo Badging on a Nismo Conversion?
 
This is kind of a silly topic but I have to ask b/c I'm stuck on not knowing what to do with badging my car when I'm done converting my Sport/Touring to a full Nismo bodykit.

Maybe this question is directed more to the Nismo 370z community b/c you guys paid $10K+ on top of Base model to be different (and be more exclusive)from the rest of the 370z trims.

Do you think my car should carry the Nismo badge in the rear? - Real Question
Is it pretty much "don't try be a Nismo when it's not a Nismo"?
So, what really makes up a Nismo?

scruffydog 02-19-2013 10:25 AM

The difference between a Nismo are below:
My car current meet or exceeds the following:-350HP from exhaust (I have Stillen CBE/Berk HFC)
-Nismo Aero Body Kit - (except I'm having EVO-R CF Nismo High Wing)
-Nismo Suspension (KW V3)
-Nismo Sways (Whiteline)
The Things I lack:
-Front Body Damper
-9.5"/10.5" width Nismo Rays wheels
-More stiffer front Strut Brace

isayimandrew 02-19-2013 10:39 AM

TBH i would leave the nismo badging off... if its not a nismo then dont brand it as one. If you want it to say Nismo on there go for it. its yours anyways. you gotta put on what you want on the car not what anyone else wants. I just think its ricer when a car is branded for what its not. just my 2 cents though.

JARblue 02-19-2013 10:45 AM

Mustang has a Nismo license plate frame on his Mustang :icon17:

Do what YOU want man :tup:

DEpointfive0 02-19-2013 10:47 AM

Put the Nismo decals if you like the word "Nismo" on your car
I have Nismo license plate surrounds too because I just like them

m4a1mustang 02-19-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2173478)
Mustang has a Nismo license plate frame on his Mustang :icon17:

Do what YOU want man :tup:

Yeah but that was for trollolllols. This, IMO, is rice. The body kit is fine but your car is NOT a Nismo model so don't badge it as such.

JARblue 02-19-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2173486)
Yeah but that was for trollolllols. This, IMO, is rice. The body kit is fine but your car is NOT a Nismo model so don't badge it as such.

I guess it's like putting SVT badge on your non-cobra mustang or GT on your base model? And I thought Z = rice :bowrofl:

enkei2k 02-19-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2173431)
The difference between a Nismo are below:
My car current meet or exceeds the following:-350HP from exhaust (I have Stillen CBE/Berk HFC)
-Nismo Aero Body Kit - (except I'm having EVO-R CF Nismo High Wing)
-Nismo Suspension (KW V3)
-Nismo Sways (Whiteline)
The Things I lack:
-Front Body Damper
-9.5"/10.5" width Nismo Rays wheels
-More stiffer front Strut Brace

You also lack the Nismo plaque inside the car :stirthepot:

That being said, I have a Nismo license plate on my base as well like DE.

Their strut brace is stiffer? I didn't know that.

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:00 AM

I appreciate all the feedback and it aligns with what I was expected to get back as answers. I will most likely leave out the Nismo badge. But I wonder if I should put on the 370z badge on the left side. Get the fairlady one? or the 370z one? Maybe this also goes back to it's not a fairlady, don't try to be a fairlady.

I wonder if it'd look weird if I only have the Nissan Front/Rear Hamburger emblem without any badges. Like it'd be too bare or blend in with those debaged BMW 328i.

My idea when people debadge a car isn't mianly to look clean, it's more have to do with hiding something. I believe most BMW 328 debadge their emblems so others won't notice they got the lowest trim even though you can clearly tell from the exhaust tips =P

DEpointfive0 02-19-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2173526)
I appreciate all the feedback and it aligns with what I was expected to get back as answers. I will most likely leave out the Nismo badge. But I wonder if I should put on the 370z badge on the left side. Get the fairlady one? or the 370z one? Maybe this also goes back to it's not a fairlady, don't try to be a fairlady.

I wonder if it'd look weird if I only have the Nissan Front/Rear Hamburger emblem without any badges. Like it'd be too bare or blend in with those debaged BMW 328i.

My idea when people debadge a car isn't mianly to look clean, it's more have to do with hiding something. I believe most BMW 328 debadge their emblems so others won't notice they got the lowest trim even though you can clearly tell from the exhaust tips =P

Please for the love of god do what YOU want!!!
The Nismo owners are butt hurt, what difference does it make, go order some plaques if it makes you happy, lol

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2173511)
You also lack the Nismo plaque inside the car :stirthepot:

That being said, I have a Nismo license plate on my base as well like DE.

Their strut brace is stiffer? I didn't know that.

Right, I know, and the red engine cover too and another Nismo badge on the strut brace.

And yes, it's stiffer because they weld on 2 more little beams. How much stiffer? prolly 5%? haha.

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps1233e83d.jpg

cv129 02-19-2013 11:10 AM

Op if you actually spent the money (even of its just the full body kit minus the wing + paint + rims and tires), that will cost you almost 10k anyway. I don't mind you putting on the badge, after all, all the nismo parts are available for purchase anyway. Doesn't hurt my feeling at all

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2173529)
Please for the love of god do what YOU want!!!
The Nismo owners are butt hurt, what difference does it make, go order some plaques if it makes you happy, lol

Thanks DE, I don't intend to start up any drama over simple plaques and badges. In the end that's what I do, but I always find it interesting to see what majority of the 370z community find as accepting.

It's like majority of the 370z owners have a mutual understanding that scissor doors look super tacky on a 370z and belongs to a Lambo. Same goes with Neon lights, etc. Those are things I find obvious where I don't need to get a "RICE" ticket from someone to tell me.

Did I tell you someone at my College went around cars giving these "RICE" tickets out before? It had a ton of check boxes with things like: Park backwards Crooked, Type R Emblems when it's not, overly large bolt on exhaust tip, etc.

That was funny. :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 02-19-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2173509)
I guess it's like putting SVT badge on your non-cobra mustang or GT on your base model? And I thought Z = rice :bowrofl:

Yes. If I had a mustang it would be like putting a gt500 emblem on it.

kenchan 02-19-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2173529)
Please for the love of god do what YOU want!!!
The Nismo owners are butt hurt, what difference does it make, go order some plaques if it makes you happy, lol

:icon18: +1

scruffy- you can do watever you want with it. please entertain us. we need good laugh. :icon17: ;)

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2173548)
Op if you actually spent the money (even of its just the full body kit minus the wing + paint + rims and tires), that will cost you almost 10k anyway. I don't mind you putting on the badge, after all, all the nismo parts are available for purchase anyway. Doesn't hurt my feeling at all

I appreciate that thought.
Back in 2010, a fully loaded Sport/Touring/Nav 6MT 370z actually cost more than a Nismo370z. I actually wanted to buy a Nismo but has all the day to day luxary amenities I can get from the Touring. But sadly that model only exist in Japan.

So it was either to convert an authetic Nismo to fully loaded Touring with Nav or the choice I ended with. Either way would have sucked, b/c doing the research of all the components to make a Factory nav work alone costed $10K+ also. Looking back ,I guess I should have went with a Nismo to begin with.

Red__Zed 02-19-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2173571)
Yes. If I had a mustang it would be like putting a gt500 emblem on it.

Yeah but you badged your s2200 as if it was the (far superior) s2000

kenchan 02-19-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2173580)
Yeah but you badged your s2200 as if it was the (far superior) s2000

please elaborate! :bowrofl:

TheW3r3W0lf 02-19-2013 11:31 AM

In reality the factory Nismo cars say Nismo everywhere. Seats, Tach, Wheels etc. Mine is debadged on the outside and I personally am most visually attracted to simple clean lines without a million badges like some auto manufactures. I'm sure your car looks great as is : )

DEpointfive0 02-19-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheW3r3W0lf (Post 2173597)
In reality the factory Nismo cars say Nismo everywhere. Seats, Tach, Wheels etc. Mine is debadged on the outside and I personally am most visually attracted to simple clean lines without a million badges like some auto manufactures. I'm sure your car looks great as is : )

Can I have your Nismo badges? Lol

elmz 02-19-2013 11:38 AM

Nismo is a performance brand not so much a car itself. I have to disagree when others say its like putting a GT or GT500 emblem on a V6 Mustang because there is no such thing as GT/GT500 brand, its a model designation in the Ford lineup. Nismo refers to products like an a exhaust, a wheel, and aero parts, etc...It's like when you order H&R springs and they give you a sticker and you decide to put it on your car. It's not an H&R car now, instead, you're simply stating that you have their product on your car.

EDIT: I do understand Nissan has Nismo designated models though. It's open to interpretation...

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:40 AM

I find it interesting that people have a lot of inputs with the Nismo badge (particularly on the rear bumper on the top right corner where factory location)

You pretty much answered exactly what I was going to ask.

What about License plate frames? If it's not a Nismo 370z, should one even have a Nismo frame?

I know i'm just :stirthepot: but what about Nismo upgraded parts? Those have Nismo badges written all over them. Intakes, strut tower braces, etc
http://www.nissanraceshop.com/image/...4420-1ea00.jpg

What about Nissan GT-R? They don't have an official factory NISMO trim line that I know of yet I see Nismo stickers on it from time to time. Does it mean they shouldn't put any "NISMO" stickers/badges related items on it?

DEpointfive0 02-19-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 2173618)
Nismo is a performance brand not so much a car itself. I have to disagree when others say its like putting a GT or GT500 emblem on a V6 Mustang because there is no such thing as GT/GT500 brand, its a model designation in the Ford lineup. Nismo refers to products like an a exhaust, a wheel, and aero parts, etc...It's like when you order H&R springs and they give you a sticker and you decide to put it on your car. It's not an H&R car now, instead, you're simply stating that you have their product on your car.

So are you for or against the OP putting Nismo on his car?

mults 02-19-2013 11:45 AM

OP, I would do whatever you want that makes you happy. However, in the event that you ever decide to sell it, I would devulge that it is a Nismo clone. Some people won't care, but on the odd chance that someone feels that they are getting a factory Nismo, it may come back to bite you in the Nismo!

TheW3r3W0lf 02-19-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2173598)
Can I have your Nismo badges? Lol

If I still had them sure! But I don't : (

scruffydog 02-19-2013 11:46 AM

I think with branding, it's always tough. I'm sure if I had a ///M3, I'd feel strongly against other 3 series wanting to wear that ///M badge when the car isn't exactly the same thing. This goes with STi, EVO, Type R etc.

But I've always found it differently with the 370z. B/c the engine is the exact same engine, just a different tune where as all the other cars I've listed above actually have a completely different engine + other stuff like BBK, suspension, transmission, what not.

UNKNOWN_370 02-19-2013 11:54 AM

A Nismo is a series of overpriced parts... who cares??? do what you want. Nobody will be saying 10 years from now that the Nismo was any better than sport pkg base/touring cars. Intake,hfc exhaust and tune on a reg Z will net you a 50hp. for $2600. $1200 in suspension parts will kill all that makes a nismo suspension anything worth talking about.

The body kit is the only truely nice thing about a Nismo, but it's more rare to have a Amuse or Fujimura kit...

Do what you want. Nismo has no value over time over any other Z, unless badges really become that meaningful in this country over time???:wtf2:

elmz 02-19-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2173625)
So are you for or against the OP putting Nismo on his car?

It's up to the OP what he wants to do with his car. My point was putting a Nismo sticker on your car doesn't mean you're trying to pretend you have a Nismo Z. I have a feeling you're not going t let me off the hook with that comment :rofl2:

UNKNOWN_370 02-19-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 2173658)
It's up to the OP what he wants to do with his car. My point was putting a Nismo sticker on your car doesn't mean you're trying to pretend you have a Nismo Z. I have a feeling you're not going t let me off the hook with that comment :rofl2:

If you have a nismo exhaust or real nismo kit? Right then and there, it gives you the right to put a nismo sticker. You bought a nismo part. fvck it. lol

Maybe they should make a new sticker. "I allowed Nismo name to rape me" lol:inoutroflpuke:

DEpointfive0 02-19-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 2173658)
It's up to the OP what he wants to do with his car. My point was putting a Nismo sticker on your car doesn't mean you're trying to pretend you have a Nismo Z. I have a feeling you're not going t let me off the hook with that comment :rofl2:

LOL, I just didn't get it. To me, the Nismo is a body kit with a shítty ride.

So since the OP has the body kit, a better ride, leather, nav, Bose and some other things, it MORE than makes up for not having the strut bar difference, or the chassis dampeners or the placards and... Whatever other BS parts come on a Nismo
So to me, his car is as good if not better than a Nismo

kenchan 02-19-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2173638)

But I've always found it differently with the 370z. B/c the engine is the exact same engine, just a different tune where as all the other cars I've listed above actually have a completely different engine + other stuff like BBK, suspension, transmission, what not.

in other words, wat you really want to say is nismo folks got ripped off.

so you probably better off not putting on the badge since you dont want to be the sucker like the rest of em. :icon17:

isayimandrew 02-19-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2173529)
Please for the love of god do what YOU want!!!
The Nismo owners are butt hurt, what difference does it make, go order some plaques if it makes you happy, lol

pwahaha idk about being butt hurt from someone else putting a nismo badge on their car. I personally dont care if i see it on someone elses car but I wouldn't support it if they asked for my opinion. but like you said, "do what YOU want!!!." everyone is gonna have different taste so someone will always either like or hate it.

scruffydog 02-19-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 2173658)
It's up to the OP what he wants to do with his car. My point was putting a Nismo sticker on your car doesn't mean you're trying to pretend you have a Nismo Z. I have a feeling you're not going t let me off the hook with that comment :rofl2:

Yea, haha, and i know if I end up with a Nismo badge, someone who knows a Nismo 370z will be looking for a front damper or the authenticity plaque to call me out and goes: "That's not a Nismo!"

Moreover, I can't be part of the Nismo Registry...:eek:

bdavis89 02-19-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2173509)
I guess it's like putting SVT badge on your non-cobra mustang or GT on your base model? And I thought Z = rice :bowrofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2173571)
Yes. If I had a mustang it would be like putting a gt500 emblem on it.

This:
Quote:

Originally Posted by elmz (Post 2173618)
Nismo is a performance brand not so much a car itself. I have to disagree when others say its like putting a GT or GT500 emblem on a V6 Mustang because there is no such thing as GT/GT500 brand, its a model designation in the Ford lineup. Nismo refers to products like an a exhaust, a wheel, and aero parts, etc...It's like when you order H&R springs and they give you a sticker and you decide to put it on your car. It's not an H&R car now, instead, you're simply stating that you have their product on your car.

EDIT: I do understand Nissan has Nismo designated models though. It's open to interpretation...

I don't see the problem with Nismo. In the OP's case its the equivalent of taking that Mustang GT, putting Ford Racing parts on it, and putting a Ford Racing emblem on it. I see it differently than putting a GT500 emblem on a regular Mustang.

scruffydog 02-19-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2173675)
in other words, wat you really want to say is nismo folks got ripped off.

so you probably better off not putting on the badge since you dont want to be the sucker like the rest of em. :icon17:

lol, I am a sucker! Don't even remind me. My logic of spending money is irrational.

Quote:

Originally Posted by isayimandrew (Post 2173678)
pwahaha idk about being butt hurt from someone else putting a nismo badge on their car. I personally dont care if i see it on someone elses car but I wouldn't support it if they asked for my opinion. but like you said, "do what YOU want!!!." everyone is gonna have different taste so someone will always either like or hate it.

Thanks for the honest opinion.

UNKNOWN_370 02-19-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2173680)
Yea, haha, and i know if I end up with a Nismo badge, someone who knows a Nismo 370z will be looking for a front damper or the authenticity plaque to call me out and goes: "That's not a Nismo!"

Moreover, I'm can't be part of the Nismo Registry...:eek:

Buy the dampers from the dealership. They aren't limited to buy... Ride along with a nismo owner and steal his plaque when he's getting gas. Then run out the car as fast as you can!!!!

:drama:

isayimandrew 02-19-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2173680)
Yea, haha, and i know if I end up with a Nismo badge, someone who knows a Nismo 370z will be looking for a front damper or the authenticity plaque to call me out and goes: "That's not a Nismo!"

Moreover, I'm can't be part of the Nismo Registry...:eek:

watch out... someone might pull this off on you!
http://cdn.overclock.net/3/30/30b02550_Phony.png

scruffydog 02-19-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mults (Post 2173632)
OP, I would do whatever you want that makes you happy. However, in the event that you ever decide to sell it, I would devulge that it is a Nismo clone. Some people won't care, but on the odd chance that someone feels that they are getting a factory Nismo, it may come back to bite you in the Nismo!

I think either way it's gonna suck because I got a sport/Touring, and if i do decide to sell it as a Sport/Touring and something happens to a body panel to the new owner and they want to go thru insurance for replacement.

They're gonna have a hard time with pairing up the Sport/touring parts with this Nismo body kit as a lot of the parts won't fit and insurance company will only tread my car like sports/touring model.

Tazicon 02-19-2013 12:16 PM

I have a G37 IPL and I get offended by non IPL owners putting an IPL badges on their cars. I am sure I would feel the same about a Nismo. If you wanted a Nismo why didn't you just buy it in the first place instead of playing make believe?

isayimandrew 02-19-2013 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 2173695)
I have a G37 IPL and I get offended by non IPL owners putting an IPL badges on their cars. I am sure I would feel the same about a Nismo. If you wanted a Nismo why didn't you just buy it in the first place instead of playing make believe?

cause he wanted all the options the nismo cant have like heated seats, nav option, etc.


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