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CDepp 02-19-2013 08:39 PM

I'm going to badge mine with:


370Z
GT-Spec-COBRA-R-NISMO-AMG-SS-Type M3Speed-Northstar-Monkeysweat
Edition



:roflpuke2:

TheGreatOne 02-19-2013 08:41 PM

Meh, Nismo is Nissan's performance line, similar to Mugen for Honda, TRD for Toyota

Although the difference is there is no "Mugen" model Honda...so a tricky one, I think having some Nismo badging/decals is no biggy, but if u are trying to tell people it is a Nismo, that's a whole different story.

TheGreatOne 02-19-2013 08:42 PM

Oh and leaning to no badging whatsoever, keep em guessing lol

CDepp 02-19-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 2174653)
Meh, Nismo is Nissan's performance line, similar to Mugen for Honda, TRD for Toyota

Although the difference is there is no "Mugen" model Honda...so a tricky one, I think having some Nismo badging/decals is no biggy, but if u are trying to tell people it is a Nismo, that's a whole different story.

2008 Civic Si Sedan-Mugen

Hard to see it, but the badge is on the facia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...i_MUGEN_DC.jpg


//I'm an a$s, sorry

CDepp 02-19-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2174657)

I almost bought it. Went with the EX coupe MT, and got the fiance a C300 sport thinking she would let me get another bike. (that's how I ended up with the Z - no bike, I get the car I want)

RoshDawg 02-19-2013 08:58 PM

Put on a NISMO R badge!

On a side note, I would love to paint my 911 Calipers yellow, but I'm restraining myself from doing so as yellow calipers on 911's means carbon ceramic brakes... Now, if I swaped out my rotors for carbon ceramics, then you better believe I would change my calipers to yellow. Same thing you did, you changed it to a nismo after the fact, you have every right to put on a nismo badge. And I agree with the idea that putting on a GT500 badge on a 5.0 is VERY different from a Nismo on a Nismo conversion. Its impossible to make a 5.0 a GT500, but it is VERY possible to make a 370Z Sport/Touring a Nismo, with just a better interior.

Mike 02-19-2013 09:08 PM

I'm more into debadging myself, but I don't see a problem with it. Nissan sells Nismo S-tune body kits and Nismo stripe kits that say nismo on them. At least its not like putting a GTR badge (or 3 actually) on a Mitsubishi.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...41066527_n.jpg

CDepp 02-19-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2174694)
I'm more into debadging myself, but I don't see a problem with it. Nissan sells Nismo S-tune body kits and Nismo stripe kits that say nismo on them. At least its not like putting a GTR badge (or 3 actually) on a Mitsubishi.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...41066527_n.jpg

Mike, be easy. We all know how it is there in GA. Be grateful he got a Japanese badge on a Japanese car. Any badge with more than 3 letters might have been a real task, I assume. He could have made Georgians look bad (worse :confused:) by putting an AMG badge or a SS badge on the Mitsu.

/I'm an a$s

lemon-fresh 02-19-2013 10:50 PM

Is i-vtec still cool? Try putting that on it.

MJB 02-19-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2174694)
I'm more into debadging myself, but I don't see a problem with it. Nissan sells Nismo S-tune body kits and Nismo stripe kits that say nismo on them. At least its not like putting a GTR badge (or 3 actually) on a Mitsubishi.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...41066527_n.jpg

:roflpuke2: That reminds me of the Mustang GTR guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlDLybhuOH0

Cuban Z 02-20-2013 12:07 AM

OP...do what you like. Just be straight-up with folks as to what it is and you'll be fine. Noone on here (myself included) should sway you one way or the other with our opinions. That said here's mine. You've got enough Nismo **** on your car that badging it is fine in my book.

IMO it's not the same as GT500 or an M because the Nismo upgrade, if you can even call it that (I've got one) is not comparable to those upgraded packages. I love my Niz, but I don't think that mine is better than a non-Nismo Z (better looking yes, but taste is subjective), but performance wise, not really. They could've/should've done better. What my Nismo is that a non-Nismo with exhaust mods isn't, is legal in CA...and since my goal was not to mod, the Niz is what I went with...and I couldn't give a rat's *** what anyone has to say about that. Plus I don't have to take **** off every time I have a dealer issue. But to each his own.

Putting a Nismo emblem on your car given all your Nismo mods IMO is definitely more relevant and appropriate than putting a Fairlady Z badge on any USDM Z car, which many of my friends have and it looks fine and I'm not hating...you do you, you Fairlady Z badging people! But if people want to get picky and give you **** for badging your car with a Nismo emblem, if it wasn't built as a right-hand drive car for the JDM, then illegally imported into the US, it is not a Fairlady and shouldn't have the Fairlady emblem. If we're going to say that you're rice because its not "a real Nismo from the factory" then anyone with a Fairlady emblem in the US that doesn't meet the conditions above is automatically even more rice than you. :D

I'd be interested in hearing what Waizz, our resident Nismo freak, thinks about all this badging business. This whole discussion and argument just cost me about 20 IQ points! Damn my head hurts. Do what you like man! Good luck.

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJB (Post 2174996)
:roflpuke2: That reminds me of the Mustang GTR guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlDLybhuOH0

:inoutroflpuke::bowrofl:
That's awesome!!!

That reminds me of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PlYlLaxV38

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 12:21 AM

Cuban_Z, well said!
:tiphat:

Waiz 02-20-2013 01:03 AM

NISMO decals are perfectly fine, now if you walk around telling everyone that you have a NISMO when you don't that's a different story

karotZ 02-20-2013 02:13 AM

OP, putting a Nismo decal/emblem is like having Spoon, TRD, M or Dinan badges. For me, it tells me that you have particular parts installed from those brands that gave it the right to rock it. Like you, I was planning to convert mine to a full nismo using the body kit, wheels, tune, suspension, interior and other minor details - hence I was going to badge it. Since it does cost a lot, I think it should be fine but when folks ask, you have to inform them that it's a nismo conversion which IMO, gives you my respect for being honest for spending blood, sweat and time. It may not sound realistic for some folks, but as long as you are happy, that's all that counts.

I've seen owners put GT-R, R-Spec, RS and Nismo badge without any parts installed or even a reason - those guys didn't give a f*** what people have to say.

Amuse370z 02-20-2013 06:40 AM

I love how the nismo name is supposed to make the car more prestigious when the conversion probably costs more than purchasing a "real" nismo outright.

UNKNOWN_370 02-20-2013 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuban Z (Post 2175033)
OP...do what you like. Just be straight-up with folks as to what it is and you'll be fine. Noone on here (myself included) should sway you one way or the other with our opinions. That said here's mine. You've got enough Nismo **** on your car that badging it is fine in my book.

IMO it's not the same as GT500 or an M because the Nismo upgrade, if you can even call it that (I've got one) is not comparable to those upgraded packages. I love my Niz, but I don't think that mine is better than a non-Nismo Z (better looking yes, but taste is subjective), but performance wise, not really. They could've/should've done better. What my Nismo is that a non-Nismo with exhaust mods isn't, is legal in CA...and since my goal was not to mod, the Niz is what I went with...and I couldn't give a rat's *** what anyone has to say about that. Plus I don't have to take **** off every time I have a dealer issue. But to each his own.

Putting a Nismo emblem on your car given all your Nismo mods IMO is definitely more relevant and appropriate than putting a Fairlady Z badge on any USDM Z car, which many of my friends have and it looks fine and I'm not hating...you do you, you Fairlady Z badging people! But if people want to get picky and give you **** for badging your car with a Nismo emblem, if it wasn't built as a right-hand drive car for the JDM, then illegally imported into the US, it is not a Fairlady and shouldn't have the Fairlady emblem. If we're going to say that you're rice because its not "a real Nismo from the factory" then anyone with a Fairlady emblem in the US that doesn't meet the conditions above is automatically even more rice than you. :D

I'd be interested in hearing what Waizz, our resident Nismo freak, thinks about all this badging business. This whole discussion and argument just cost me about 20 IQ points! Damn my head hurts. Do what you like man! Good luck.


:iagree: totally.

"Mah carne, ni mah carne!!! Asi viene el sangwish mang!!!!"


lol::tup:

xxAGAVExx 02-20-2013 07:20 AM

If you upgrade to actual nismo parts I don't see any problem with it. But I don't see the point in upgrading a base to nismo parts when there are better aftermarket parts out there, just my opinion. also I like the debadged look, I want people guessing on my car, I want people to see and here my car and say, wow what was that

Mt Tam I am 02-20-2013 08:51 AM

Since Nismo's are numbered, what number will yours be? You could get a plaque that says counterfeit.

theDreamer 02-20-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 2174216)
Then he didn't want a Nismo in the first place end of story.

I am here just to correct an error, the Nismo in the US is a POS version of what everyone else gets.
In other countries you get all the options of the other models, nav, leather, heat, etc. if you want in a Nismo.

Carry on....

Gauge 02-20-2013 09:15 AM

IMO, do what you want man. It's your car. Putting a nismo badge on your car doesn't make you a pretender. It is no different then putting a GTM or Stillen decal on your car. You have respect, and you want to show it.

I wouldn't go around telling everyone you have a nismo Z. But putting the badge on there and saying you did a conversion is actually kind of cool. It's a good talking point at meet and greets.

In the end, don't listen to anyone on this forum. Some people here are VERY elitist. It's your car, you spent the money on it, do what you want to do.

Is everyone with an Amuse replica kit a "pretender" also? Because there are a LOT of them.

Waiz 02-20-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 2175300)
IMO, do what you want man. It's your car. Putting a nismo badge on your car doesn't make you a pretender. It is no different then putting a GTM or Stillen decal on your car. You have respect, and you want to show it.

I wouldn't go around telling everyone you have a nismo Z. But putting the badge on there and saying you did a conversion is actually kind of cool. It's a good talking point at meet and greets.

In the end, don't listen to anyone on this forum. Some people here are VERY elitist. It's your car, you spent the money on it, do what you want to do.

Is everyone with an Amuse replica kit a "pretender" also? Because there are a LOT of them.

You sir get it, alot of people on this forum don't

To me at the end of the day as long as the person isn't adding a bunch of riced out LED's and Lambo doors then I'm all for whatever mod they decide for thier car


/thread

scruffydog 02-20-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuban Z (Post 2175033)
OP...do what you like. Just be straight-up with folks as to what it is and you'll be fine. Noone on here (myself included) should sway you one way or the other with our opinions. That said here's mine. You've got enough Nismo **** on your car that badging it is fine in my book.

IMO it's not the same as GT500 or an M because the Nismo upgrade, if you can even call it that (I've got one) is not comparable to those upgraded packages. I love my Niz, but I don't think that mine is better than a non-Nismo Z (better looking yes, but taste is subjective), but performance wise, not really. They could've/should've done better. What my Nismo is that a non-Nismo with exhaust mods isn't, is legal in CA...and since my goal was not to mod, the Niz is what I went with...and I couldn't give a rat's *** what anyone has to say about that. Plus I don't have to take **** off every time I have a dealer issue. But to each his own.

Putting a Nismo emblem on your car given all your Nismo mods IMO is definitely more relevant and appropriate than putting a Fairlady Z badge on any USDM Z car, which many of my friends have and it looks fine and I'm not hating...you do you, you Fairlady Z badging people! But if people want to get picky and give you **** for badging your car with a Nismo emblem, if it wasn't built as a right-hand drive car for the JDM, then illegally imported into the US, it is not a Fairlady and shouldn't have the Fairlady emblem. If we're going to say that you're rice because its not "a real Nismo from the factory" then anyone with a Fairlady emblem in the US that doesn't meet the conditions above is automatically even more rice than you. :D

I'd be interested in hearing what Waizz, our resident Nismo freak, thinks about all this badging business. This whole discussion and argument just cost me about 20 IQ points! Damn my head hurts. Do what you like man! Good luck.

Well said and I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you for expressing your feedback. It's definitely a sensitive topic as like you said everybody somehow just do whatever they like like getting away with rebadging their 370z to a Fairlady Z (or rebadging their Lexus IS to a Toyota Altezza, change their Scion FRS to Toyota GT86, Acura Integra to Honda Integra) most are pretty hypocritical with this, and rather giving grief to others, they actually would egg them on by what they did was "cool". I don't want this to be a hater or drive headaches to others or piss off other Nismo 370z owner thread; so I appreciate every feedback anyone gives.

Cheers :tup: It's always nice to have a good crowd that can keep a discussion going.

kenchan 02-20-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2174640)
I do know what you mean when it comes to the dedicated purpose of the Nismo 370z. I am about function too, but when it comes to weight, I don't think the weight difference of the Nav or additional electronics would have killed the performance of the Nismo. Unless it's a full blown race car, and I can say >95% of the Nismo 370z owners actually care about the stripped out stereo and turn it into a dedicated track car. They drive it daily/weekends and would prefer a nicer radio, a/c, possibly heated seats, integrated garage door opener, some maybe even automatic seat adjustments.

Maybe this is a stretch, but if you consider the GT-R for a second or a ///M3, they too have a standard Nav (GT-R w/ that PS3 display too) with all the bells and whistles. But then again those cars are a lot more expensive so one would expect that stuff to come std. I think it comes down to what the general market's willing to pay and what kind of customers they can attract.

A stripped down bare bone interior Nismo 370z at $42K, one would already question if it's really worth it. If they did try to market the JDM Nismo 370z in US, it would easily be another ~$7K-$10K. At that point, they'll realize that the market is very slim and they'll go back to what the general market would pay for and can live without. In the end I believe it's cost. This same goes with the 40th Anniversary edition, aside from US, outside market have the option to get it with a Nav. If you look at what they're already asking for the 40th Anniversary edition, we're already looking at $40K+ MSRP for the same car that's a lot less.

hi scruffy- i know wat you're saying. basically for cars that target the normal folk, it needs to be economical. especially a 2 seater, for most people it's going to be a 2nd car or even a 3rd car if household.

since the japanese yen was taking an unfair beating from the rest of the world there's no way in hell nissan couldve accomodated a fully loaded nismo under $45K... that said, i dont think hyundai ever got to their intended sales target with their genesis coupe. they may promote it as such, but at the core, i think they missed the boat since the JPY is finally weakening to a more fair level. JPY needs to be at least 140-150 range to be truely fair, imo. average standard of living is very high in japan.

nissan just kept the essentials and removed everything else to keep the nismo near $40K range so that it was still attainable by a normal folk...

im very gratful that the french guy gave us the G35C and 370Z, even if i had to swap out the HU and some other things on it. i dont mind at all. :tup:

SAmilitaryman 02-20-2013 10:58 AM

Your car. Your money. Do what you want. Hell, I'm going to take all the badges off my car after I get my body kit. Completely blank. Ninja style.

Point being do what makes you happy. Others mod their cars the way they want. Do the same to yours and make it how you want it.

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waizzz (Post 2175366)
You sir get it, alot of people on this forum don't

To me at the end of the day as long as the person isn't adding a bunch of riced out LED's and Lambo doors then I'm all for whatever mod they decide for thier car


/thread

Oh... Lambo doors ain't cool anymore? They make it much easier for me to get in and out of the car...
So at the next meet you'll hate 2 things about my car, the headlights and the doors :ugh2:

Gauge 02-20-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2175602)
Oh... Lambo doors ain't cool anymore? They make it much easier for me to get in and out of the car...
So at the next meet you'll hate 2 things about my car, the headlights and the doors :ugh2:

You know, I don't really mind these. I don't have them personally, but they do look neat.

I think around here they just try really really hard to not be in with the ricer crowd.

Sort of like Emo kids. They are so non-conformist, that they conform to the non-conformist.

If ricers do it, they hate it by default.

scruffydog 02-20-2013 02:57 PM

HAHA, I had scissor doors on my Honda Civic once, super riced out.

I didn't keep it on for even a day because the aftermarket one couldn't replicate the way a Lambo door should open as it wasn't designed to clear the roof line or the windshield. Plus it required cable harness extensions, etc. So I took it off and restored it back to its default style. It would have been super cool and not hideous IMO. I don't think only Lambo should be the only car that's allowed to have scissor doors just b/c they pioneered/marketed first. Successful Car manufacturers constantly steal ideas that work and are cool to implement on any car models all the time. I'm sure we all thought the boomerang headlights/tail lights were exclusive to only the 370z. Similar to Audi's LED headlights.

Is it flashy? Hell yes. But isn't the idea of a sports car in general? No matter how blacked out it is, cops and thieves are drawn to it and can spot one out from a mile away.

But I'm not a big fan of those people who just slap any kind of chrome fake scoops or random emblems all over their cars. That's just whack and stupid.

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 2175783)
You know, I don't really mind these. I don't have them personally, but they do look neat.

I think around here they just try really really hard to not be in with the ricer crowd.

Sort of like Emo kids. They are so non-conformist, that they conform to the non-conformist.

If ricers do it, they hate it by default.

Lol, honestly, if they're a good or well made kit, I don't mind, especially with such long doors. It makes it much easier to get in and out...
But since it's SOOOOOO associated with ricers and the Civic ricers (I don't mind the Civic) I don't do it...

EDIT:
Like scruffy just said!!! LOL!!!:icon18:

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2176068)
But I'm not a big fan of those people who just slap any kind of chrome fake scoops or random emblems all over their cars. That's just whack and stupid.

Like this guy with his "K&M" intakes? (Post from before)
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ml#post2175039

scruffydog 02-20-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2176099)
Lol, honestly, if they're a good or well made kit, I don't mind, especially with such long doors. It makes it much easier to get in and out...
But since it's SOOOOOO associated with ricers and the Civic ricers (I don't mind the Civic) I don't do it...

EDIT:
Like scruffy just said!!! LOL!!!:icon18:

Maybe there'll be less stupid door dings from ignorant people that loves to kick/swing their doors open. But it requires so much arm strength to close the door - which is prolly why most car manf. don't wanna adopt this scissor door idea.

FlawlessZ 02-20-2013 04:05 PM

You can put whatever you like on the Z, NISMO dose stand for Nissan Motorsports. Bimmers put ///M badges all the time even tho its not one, benz's put AMG badges when they just have AMG wheels...There is no problem since you do actually have the NISMO body kit and your reping NISMO...

Personal opinion, I don't like and extra badges on my cars, I took the 370z off the day I got the car...It keeps the car clean and simple.

UNKNOWN_370 02-20-2013 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2175449)
hi scruffy- i know wat you're saying. basically for cars that target the normal folk, it needs to be economical. especially a 2 seater, for most people it's going to be a 2nd car or even a 3rd car if household.

since the japanese yen was taking an unfair beating from the rest of the world there's no way in hell nissan couldve accomodated a fully loaded nismo under $45K... that said, i dont think hyundai ever got to their intended sales target with their genesis coupe. they may promote it as such, but at the core, i think they missed the boat since the JPY is finally weakening to a more fair level. JPY needs to be at least 140-150 range to be truely fair, imo. average standard of living is very high in japan.

nissan just kept the essentials and removed everything else to keep the nismo near $40K range so that it was still attainable by a normal folk...

im very gratful that the french guy gave us the G35C and 370Z, even if i had to swap out the HU and some other things on it. i dont mind at all. :tup:

I feel you to a point but, 2013 refresh money could have went to better things. Also, fixing the oil cooling issue in 09.5 would have kept sales more steady. I think half the enthusiast market scaled off on the 370z based off the C&D shyt. What happened to the Z34 was a double edged sword. But a car with a legacy like this... I'd rather raise the price of all nissan models $200
to protect the name, reputation and heritage of the 370z.
I love my car as well. have had to tweak where the car lacked. But with the level of competition that suddenly smacked mustang, Z, Vette and 3 series in 2008. They had to be on point with SOME of the complaints. There were a lot of BS complaints. Like NVH and ride comfort... Yeah ok. Nissan attempted to address that instead of oil cooling. SLF etc... By the time they got around to oil cooling. Rep was already imprinted in the word market. Sales continue declining.

As far as hyundai. I would say they are 35/65 on the target market. Gencoupe forum is loaded with modders and tuners doing there thing. The hyundai is much more accessible to people so the market is more mixed. The Z attracts more driving enthusiasts more than tuners. I guess that's where they tried to market the Z. Problem with that though. The looks of the Z screamed tuner.

Z is still an awesome car. Downside is that it currently is not competitive. it's too neutral in an aggressive enthusiast market.

I keep positive thoughts for the Z35. If it can improve and smooth out the Z34? That would be awesome. The

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 2176102)
Maybe there'll be less stupid door dings from ignorant people that loves to kick/swing their doors open. But it requires so much arm strength to close the door - which is prolly why most car manf. don't wanna adopt this scissor door idea.

Off topic, but they don't do it because because it's a safety issue
Going back in time... After the Mercedes 300SL gull wing and before the DeLorean there was a gull wing car called the Bricklin SV-1 (Safety Vehicle 1)
Wonder why it died (it looks crappy, but that's to today's standards, besides the point)?
The media said what if the car rolls over? Your "safe" car is now a coffin.
It's for the same reason they don't do scissor or Lambo doors on mainstream cars! :tiphat:

PapoZalsa 02-20-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2173580)
Yeah but you badged your s2200 as if it was the (far superior) s2000

API...:bowrofl:

scruffydog 02-20-2013 08:17 PM

Here's. 40th anniversary Nismo 370z =D
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/o...psda174369.png
I guess they put the Nismo badge on it after the conversion.

DEpointfive0 02-20-2013 08:25 PM

Looks kinda regular gunmetal metallic

scruffydog 02-21-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlawlessZ (Post 2176150)
You can put whatever you like on the Z, NISMO dose stand for Nissan Motorsports. Bimmers put ///M badges all the time even tho its not one, benz's put AMG badges when they just have AMG wheels...There is no problem since you do actually have the NISMO body kit and your reping NISMO...

Personal opinion, I don't like and extra badges on my cars, I took the 370z off the day I got the car...It keeps the car clean and simple.

Plus the beauty of the less emblems there are on the car, the less chance someone would steal em.
I had an authentic Type R with that emblem stolen. What's worst is that it left a screw driver hole in my bumper.

Do people even still steal emblems?!? :mad: WTF?!?

LiquidCrewZ 02-21-2013 12:59 AM

When I had my mustang, people that had gts would sometimes put cobra bages on. We would call them fobras. They would lack the power to back up anything worth being a cobra. But, if done right, I don't see why you can't delair your car a Nismo edition. If its merited. Go for it.

nmjaxx9 02-21-2013 10:29 PM

Nah thats like putting a Ferrari emblem on a Eclipse. :icon17:

Buy it like that from the factory or dont put it on!! :tup:


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