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scope22 01-25-2013 05:10 PM

leaf vs 370
 
leaf wins....

we were at a red light in a turning lane, he was in the inside lane, i didn't realize he was trying to get ahead of me so he had a head start and i had a milkshake in the car and didn't want to spill it, and i didn't want to gun it because we were makign a turn so i was a bit affraid i would spin out in the middle of the intersection...but still....

...is it even possible to spin out when making a turn with traction control on?


...and for those who are about to bitch about racing, i wasn't racing just trying to 'keep up' :driving:

Kingbaby 01-25-2013 05:15 PM

smh

cool story

BeachZTT 01-25-2013 05:15 PM

Unlikely the tires will spin long enough to get sideways... :) but you would definately spill that shake! :eekdance:

NickTurnon 01-25-2013 05:17 PM

You are more likely to spin out making a turn then you are going straight. Our car has enough power to spin out in first gear with traction on. Glad you played it safely

Jbwrecked 01-25-2013 05:28 PM

You'll get more of a "shake" from traction control kicking in then from spinning tires. See what I did there? :ughdance:

Bucketlist2012 01-25-2013 05:42 PM

I get "beat" by Prius's all the time...

Mainly because I just cruise and they think they have a race car...

They seem kinda uptight...I would be too if I owned a Prius...

Haven't gotten spanked by a Leaf...I have spanked a girl with a .....But nevermind...

dP3NGU1N 01-25-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2130841)
leaf wins....

we were at a red light in a turning lane, he was in the inside lane, i didn't realize he was trying to get ahead of me so he had a head start and i had a milkshake in the car and didn't want to spill it, and i didn't want to gun it because we were makign a turn so i was a bit affraid i would spin out in the middle of the intersection...but still....

...is it even possible to spin out when making a turn with traction control on?


...and for those who are about to bitch about racing, i wasn't racing just trying to 'keep up' :driving:

:shakes head: I feel embarrassed for you....

Read T 01-25-2013 08:06 PM

Priuses and Leafs leave me in the dust from traffic lights. That said, I'm probably getting better MPG.

CDepp 01-25-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22 (Post 2130841)

...is it even possible to spin out when making a turn with traction control on?

:driving:

If they can, they're a better driver than I. (speaking of dry conditions)

I was taking the fiance out to put her sideways in the lot here at the motor speedway and forgot to turn off the VDC.

Let's just say I looked like a fool expecting to have my fiance scream and laugh with fear and excitement, and ending up with some tense muscles and frowning.

Let's also just say the VDC wouldn't allow the *ss to come out from behind while driving in bad ice/sleet/slush today on the interstate under moderate acceleration. Although I wasn't trying today, I thought I was in a higher gear when I gave it a little pressure, and she shimmied a little. Whether I stayed on the gas or released, the car stopped giving power to the wheels and engine and would not rev back up until traction was regained.

DarkJak 01-25-2013 08:43 PM

I was doing some aggressive driving last night on some empty streets, and I can confirm that traction control won't let you spin out easy. Went into a turn with a scandinavian flick a bit too hot. The car went sideways but the rear brakes kicked in immediately and brought the car almost straight in what seemed like less than a second.

No comment on having milkshakes in your car.

XiP 01-25-2013 09:43 PM

"milkshake" :icon17:

ok i have a dirty mind, carry on

CDepp 01-25-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2131213)
I was doing some aggressive driving last night on some empty streets, and I can confirm that traction control won't let you spin out easy. Went into a turn with a scandinavian flick a bit too hot. The car went sideways but the rear brakes kicked in immediately and brought the car almost straight in what seemed like less than a second.

No comment on having milkshakes in your car.

I had no idea it would also apply braking. Interesting. I wonder how the rear brakes work without the front.

Must be the "Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD)". I thought that would release pressure by cutting fluid to a line (or up to 3 lines) while all brakes were being applied. Will be a good toilet read for me sometime.

CDepp 01-25-2013 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2131321)
I had no idea it would also apply braking. Interesting. I wonder how the rear brakes work without the front.

Must be the "Electronic Brake force Distribution (EBD)". I thought that would release pressure by cutting fluid to a line (or up to 3 lines) while all brakes were being applied. Will be a good toilet read for me sometime.

Wiki-
As per SAE - Buschmann et al. "The job of the EBD as a subsystem of the ABS system is to control the effective adhesion utilization by the rear wheels. The pressure of the rear wheels is approximated to the ideal brake force distribution in a partial braking operation. To do so, the conventional brake design is modified in the direction of rear axle overbraking, and the components of the ABS are used. EBD reduces the strain on the hydraulic brake force proportioning valve in the vehicle. EBD optimizes the brake design with regard to: adhesion utilization; driving stability; wear; temperature stress; and pedal force."
EBD may work in conjunction with ABS and Electronic Stability Control ("ESC") to minimize yaw accelerations during turns. ESC compares the steering wheel angle to vehicle turning rate using a yaw rate sensor. "Yaw" is the vehicle's rotation around its vertical center of gravity (turning left or right). If the yaw sensor detects more/less yaw than the steering wheel angle should create, the car is understeering or oversteering and ESC activates one of the front or rear brakes to rotate the car back onto its intended course. For example, if a car is making a left turn and begins to understeer (the car plows forward to the outside of the turn) ESC activates the left rear brake, which will help turn the car left. The sensors are so sensitive, and the actuation is so quick that the system may correct direction before the driver reacts. ABS helps prevent wheel lock-up and EBD helps apply appropriate brake force to make ESC work effectively and easily.




I learnt something today!

shadowfax 01-26-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 2131171)
Priuses and Leafs leave me in the dust from traffic lights. That said, I'm probably getting better MPG.

doubt it!

enkei2k 01-26-2013 12:36 AM

It's already been proven that a Leaf is faster than the 370Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgN60FrsY2Q


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