Red Light Drama - Has something like this happened to you lately?

edeeZee · 07-13-2009, 02:24 PM

I guess I can empathize somewhat when my Japanese-American friend made some negative insinuations about Harley Davidson in how it used the name "fat boy" for one of its motorcycles. This name was a diffusion and "refusion" of the names of the 2 bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Anyways, when I told him Honda held Harley for a few years i.e. trained them in efficient production processes, my friend sardonically wished that Honda would've let Harley sink to the ground.

juan05 · 07-13-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz

I'm sitting at a red today, minding my own business when this Cadillac pulls up next to me in the other lane. Guy looks at me and yells "My father used to shoot those down in World War II." So being the wise *** that I am yell back..."I didn't know cars could fly" Then hes like..."No I mean the Japs" (apparently he didn't recognize the sarcasm) Light goes green and he guns it....

Honestly, wtf is that all about? It made me laugh more than anything else. Anyone else have any stories like this?

jajaaja wow stupid people..amazing comeback +1

juan05 · 07-13-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

You younger guys probably don't get it, but there are a LOT of people around who's views towards Japanese products are influenced by WWII - either their own experience or their parents'. It's real, and there are hard feelings about it across the US. You should hear some of the comments that I've gotten from fellow Corvette owners... Sheesh...

what did the corvette owner say? if u dont mind me asking.

ricer333 · 07-13-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

The automotive manufacturing business today is TRULY global; people who don’t understand that and what it means are either too stupid to understand, don’t care, or refuse to understand so as to remain confident in their wrong thinking.

What makes such people laughable is that they’ll rail against “foreign” cars and how people should “buy American” while concurrently loading up their Chevy or Dodge pick-up with Chinese made crap they bought at Wal-Mart.

By any objective measure you want to apply; most “foreign” nameplates are, as a whole, as “American” as are GM or Ford (and even the throw-backs can’t argue Chrysler is “American” with a straight face anymore)…if you look vehicle by vehicle, many “foreign” nameplates are more “American” than “domestic” brands. But those who think the like the guy you encountered at the red light are never going to let logic or reasoning or facts get in the way of their opinion.

I can understand the feelings of those who actually lived through/fought it WWII – if I had had some Japanese soldier shooting at me or had a friend or loved one die from a bomb dropped by a Japanese pilot I’d probably wouldn’t feel all that war and fuzzy about products coming from Japan either but for the rest, for those who weren’t “there”; those feelings have more to do with just plain hatred and very misplaced patriotism than anything else.

I will say that I've never had anyone be this blatantly ignorant with me in person but I sure run into it all the time on forums!

I like this quote. I came from a FORD family and my father had always bought Ford (I still remember riding around in the original Bronco as a kid - Oil burning smell and all). But when his F-150 died, he and the mother did the research. Hardly any Ford Trucks are actually manufactured in America anymore. To cut costs, most of the assembly is done down south of the border. However, the Toyota Tundra is assembled here. And to add to this Toyota is continuing to BUILD plants here in the U.S.

So while the American manufactures have been out-sourcing their parts/labor it seems that (in Toyota's case any way) the foreign manufactures are taking interest in manufacturing over here.

Robert_Nash · 07-13-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ricer333

I like this quote. I came from a FORD family and my father had always bought Ford (I still remember riding around in the original Bronco as a kid - Oil burning smell and all). But when his F-150 died, he and the mother did the research. Hardly any Ford Trucks are actually manufactured in America anymore. To cut costs, most of the assembly is done down south of the border. However, the Toyota Tundra is assembled here. And to add to this Toyota is continuing to BUILD plants here in the U.S.

So while the American manufactures have been out-sourcing their parts/labor it seems that (in Toyota's case any way) the foreign manufactures are taking interest in manufacturing over here.

It's very likely this year that more "foreign" nameplate vehicles will be manufactured in the U.S. this year than will be manufactured by the so-called domestic manufacturers combined...in fact it's been true for several years now that most of the foreign nameplates build in the U.S. most of the vehicles they sell in the U.S.

VCuomo · 07-13-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05

what did the corvette owner say? if u dont mind me asking.

It was multiple owners, and they were criticizing me for not buying American.

Things like "Why didn't you buy a Corvette or Camaro instead?", "The Japanese people thank you for your support", "You're un-American.", "People like you are responsible for the American auto industry going broke.", ... You get the idea.

I thought the "Why didn't you buy a Camaro?" one was funny, since I'm pretty sure that the new Camaro was designed in Australia and is being built in Canada.

Even more interesting is that all of my previous cars, except for 1, were American (I even owned an American Motors Rambler back in the day)! I bought a 1987 Pontiac Trans Am during the first time that GM was trying to convince people that they made cars just as good as the Japanese - man, what a piece of crap that Trans Am was!

Robert_Nash · 07-13-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

It was multiple owners, and they were criticizing me for not buying American.

Things like "Why didn't you buy a Corvette or Camaro instead?", "The Japanese people thank you for your support", "You're un-American.", "People like you are responsible for the American auto industry going broke.", ... You get the idea.

and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if their other car was a Porsche, Lexus, BMW, MB or Acura.

cossie1600 · 07-13-2009, 09:48 PM

It sounds like some guys off the Corvette forum

Buy American or else (funny thing is that some of their "American" cars were built in Mexico).

Oh yeah, they probably don't realize GM asia is a huge part of their profits, let's get the Chinese to stop buying the Buicks!

VCuomo · 07-13-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It sounds like some guys off the Corvette forum

Buy American or else (funny thing is that some of their "American" cars were built in Mexico).

Ding, ding, ding - we have a winner! You are correct!

VCuomo · 07-13-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if their other car was a Porsche, Lexus, BMW, MB or Acura.

And it would surprise me even less that their restored and/or restomodded Corvettes are full of parts made in China, Taiwan, Mexico, ...

arcticreaver · 07-14-2009, 12:20 AM

you should've been like "i guess he didn't shoot down enough"

gotta have a come back that shuts up the crowd.

DIGItonium · 07-14-2009, 01:21 AM

It appears my car is starting to get some attention... mainly gawking while stopped. My gf points it out. I can't be her because the shoulder line is well above her boobs to be noticed ;-)

Greg · 07-14-2009, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rufio11

Yes its Japanese but totally the wrong company. Mitsubishi was the type of engine in the Jap Zeros that his father shot down. So whatever, grow tough skin and don't let comments like that get to you, being PC is so lame, just say what you mean, and mean what you say.

Actually Nakajima manufactured the majority of the Zeros engines.

PC is lame in most cases no arguement there. But saying this or any other racist remark directly to someone (esp nowadays )is pretty freaking stupid.

LOL I got some japanese american (ones a CHP officer)friends who would rip ya a new one if you said Jap to their face.

Greg · 07-14-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz

I'm sitting at a red today, minding my own business when this Cadillac pulls up next to me in the other lane. Guy looks at me and yells "My father used to shoot those down in World War II." So being the wise *** that I am yell back..."I didn't know cars could fly" Then hes like..."No I mean the Japs" (apparently he didn't recognize the sarcasm) Light goes green and he guns it....

Honestly, wtf is that all about? It made me laugh more than anything else. Anyone else have any stories like this?

"No I mean the Japs"

LOL What a tool.

Good comeback though

Another possible retort.. "Well my dad used to shoot holes in those with his Panzer" And then give a loud Sieg Heil!!

m4a1mustang · 07-14-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by greg

"no i mean the japs"

Lol what a tool.

Good comeback though

Another possible retort.. "well my dad used to shoot holes in those with his panzer" and then give a loud sieg heil!!

lol.

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DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	It appears my car is starting to get some attention... mainly gawking while stopped. My gf points it out. I can't be her because the shoulder line is well above her boobs to be noticed ;-) __________________

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edeeZee Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: s. cali, los angeles Posts: 627 Drives: 09 370z plat 6 speed Rep Power: 266	I guess I can empathize somewhat when my Japanese-American friend made some negative insinuations about Harley Davidson in how it used the name "fat boy" for one of its motorcycles. This name was a diffusion and "refusion" of the names of the 2 bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Anyways, when I told him Honda held Harley for a few years i.e. trained them in efficient production processes, my friend sardonically wished that Honda would've let Harley sink to the ground.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	It sounds like some guys off the Corvette forum Buy American or else (funny thing is that some of their "American" cars were built in Mexico). Oh yeah, they probably don't realize GM asia is a huge part of their profits, let's get the Chinese to stop buying the Buicks!