[Official] What's the Best Radar Detector?

SurfDog

Or if you have to have a chat with LEO's you can just turn off the whole unit... just saying.

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XwChriswX

I prefer not getting pulled over than avoiding conversation.

If ever pulled over, I am anything but rude to them. They are doing their job, that's all. So no need to be a dick to them. Plus it helps when you're nice.

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122554

I do

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I don't normally drink beer, but when I do....i drink a lot!

SurfDog

Still we have a culture of ignoring the constitution.
When They ask you if you know why they pulled you over, they are encouraging you to forgo your fifth amendment right. Be polite sure but also politely demand they stop trying to crap on your Constitution.

When they ask if they can take a look inside your vehicle, they are asking your permission to violate your right against unreasonable search (and seizure) They can only do it if you let them. So don't. Politely tell them to pack sand and read their history. Fascism is only a few poor choices away for we Americans.

I hope you are never pulled over, but if you are, do not make it easy for the state to unlawfully take your property (an expensive ticket)... increasingly, the police are being used simply as a revenue raising agency and are not concerned with protecting the public or public safety. Especially in the poorly run and indebted state of Colorado. I do not envy them their job but even more I do not envy you having to put up with their state authorized unconstitutional bullshnizzle.

I served my country for 20 years as a USMC officer. in doing so I swore an oath to defend your constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. I hear and do not disagree that the LEOs are "just doing their job". Well they must do it without harassing the citizens who hired them and without violating the constitution of this once great country. If you do not respect your constitutional rights and the bloody sacrifices which bought them for you, the popos will not either.

It is up to we citizens to learn our history, read our constitution, and hold our out of control government agents from taking a big dump on our heritage.

I say man up defend your country against these DOMESTIC ENEMIES and try in every way you can to put an end to this unforunate era of increasing Fascism.

Siemper Fi, and remember what Plato said 2500 years ago. "Civic disobedience is every citizens civic responsibility"

“One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” MLK

“It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” aristotle

“If the machine of government is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law”
― Henry David Thoreau,

“We need in every bay and community a group of angelic troublemakers.”
― Bayard Rustin

Long live the Republic!
-Me.

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XwChriswX

Hold on there, I'm a veteran myself, (AF). I know full well what I've sworn, fought, and bled for.

I believe this country has lost sight of its values and rights too. But when an officer pulls you over, you Were in the wrong. Like it or not.

I know my history and my constitution, but at a routine traffic stop isn't the place to fight it. Yes, I understand laziness takes over and if you won't there, then where will you? But still... Fighting at a ticket only makes it worse for You. You resist, and then they use some other loophole to get you. Your resisting them to search the vehicle gives them suspicion there is a reason Why other than you just don't want a ticket. And with the systems they have nowadays, it can only take 15 minutes for them to get a search warrant signed by a judge. Then they search your car anyway...

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SurfDog

Thanks for your service. I believe we are in an uphill fight for our national identity.

I respectfully disagree.

In order to get a search warrant, an officer must, prepare an affidavit , setting forth all the evidence and knowledge they have of premises and the offense/violation of the law known (or suspected) to be occurring there. Present the affidavit to a judge or magistrate, swearing to the truthfulness of the information contained in it. The judge will peruse it to be certain that it contains all the requirements of the law, and then signs it. Upon the judge's signature, the affidavit becomes a warrant and may be served.

Most Cops are just working to serve up as many fund raising tickets as possible as quickly as possible.

If I am pulled over because their speed gun was wonky, that is not reasonable cause for a search, and they have no reason to legally search a vehicle. Also they do not have your speed (if you were speeding) therefore the cop has nothing and will have nothing if you:
1. decline to self incriminate (5th amendment)
2. do not give your permission for any unlawful search of your property.(4th)
3. Do not just piss away the rights and freedoms our founding fathers worked to guarantee you.

sincerely, I am not picking a fight, I'm just tired of we the people giving away our freedom due to our apathetic fear and ignorance.

Do what you want, for me, I choose liberty, freedom from oppression, and the ending of Fascist attitudes wherever they may occur. My apologies to any LEOs who take exception to me calling them tools of an increasingly unlawful and oppressive state. Most LEOs I talk to agree.

here are some great answers to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?"

1. Yes. Because Colorado is in the middle of a budget crisis and you are a glorified tax collector.

2. Perhaps its because you find my car sexy and wanted a better look?

3. Because you are out of doughnuts and hope I will bribe you with some of my lunch to let me go.

Anyhow. I have 4 speed traps between my house and work. I see law abiding good people being pulled over and harassed all day every day. It makes me sick.

Radar, LADAR, speed cameras, aircraft, soon drones... Perhaps if they spent some of that money on non traffic patrols, actual crimes might be prevented.

Sincerely, I know you served in the AF and are therefore a fan of freedom, and the American way. I am just pointing out that what that dream is means something different to us than it did to our grandparents. they had backbone and would probably object to public officials overstepping their office.

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XwChriswX

That is all well and good sir, but what happens when he pulls you over, and you resist. And he says, wait just a minute. While he's doing all of this process, legal or not you're stuck there. You won't dare drive off saying he's got nothing on you. So fighting it, just makes it worse.

The place to fight stupid tickets is in the courtroom.

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SurfDog

I do not believe adhering to your rights is the same as "resisting" He can Process all he wants he has nothing on you as long as you do not admit to a crime or allow him access to your vehicle.

I do not think we are disagreeing here at all. I hold my officials accountable for upholding the law. Actually once you fail to self incriminate, the encounter is pretty much over and they will let you go.

If in doubt simply ask: "am I being detained?" unless they say yes and that you are under arrest, you are legally free to drive off without breaking the law in any way.

I obviously do not fear the law. I don't think any of us should. The burden of proof is on the officer, you are presumed innocent.

Anyhow good talk Chris, and you are right being polite makes most of this stuff a moot point.

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SurfDog

To be clear, he can command you to turn off your vehicle ,and step out and you must do those things. (lock your car behind you, he has no right to look into it)

After that, unless he states that you are under arrest, and are being detained, you are free to go. He/(SHE) might harass and threaten you, but the burden of proof is still on him. These are accepted tactics in many places, and civil right attorneys get rich defending people against overreaching police agencies. I simply recommend that we all learn what is and is not acceptable police behavior and CALL THEIR BLUFF!

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Wabbyyy

You live in Jersey. I live in Monroe Township about 10 miles away from North Brunswich

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SurfDog

I have read reports that say people that run radar detectors are statistically safer drivers than the general population. So IMHO a cop that sees a radar detector should really just let you go and thank you for driving safely...

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XwChriswX

I sped before and after I got mine. I was alert too.

However I'm not sure if my RD now makes me more/less paranoid about cops. Every time it goes off, even if it's one I know isn't a true ping, I still look around.

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SurfDog

I'm definitely MORE aware. Faster for sure more aware for sure.

Safer? I never drive at unsafe speeds. The Z is safer at higher speed though... just saying.

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DEpointfive0

Can we add a poll to this thread???

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Z1NONLY

LEO's do not need to get your speed on any device to pull you over, and I would venture to say that 10 seconds with no reading is probable cause to suspect a jammer.

But the legality of the jammer is not the issue. It's the fact that these devices can be defeated. (Once the LEO understands what they are up against.)

When I was on radardetector.net, we had a LEO join the community and his first thread was about how silly we were for wasting our money on jammers that didn't work. In his mind none of them worked.

My response was "Thanks for the information officer".

But a few geniuses in the community took it upon themselves to meet up with him and do some testing. They were so happy when he had to "eat crow" and admit they worked.....

Then he started experimenting and before too long, he figured out how to spot, and defeat jammers. Then he trained his coworkers.

Now there is a section of Texas, where a jammer is useless all because some in the community had to convince LE that they were being beaten.


They have more money, more toys, and they get paid to do this with their time.

Once stealth is lost, we lose.

Oh, and unless you have some James Bond retractable setup, (That's prone to alignment issues) they don't need to enter the car to locate the jammers.