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Old 01-16-2013, 12:50 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Another NA car with even less power?! You looking to downgrade? Pretty sure there is gonna be wayyyy better performing stuff coming out in 2014/15 for around the same price. To each their own I guess.
Let me know what. I'm all ears. I like the look of the BRZ, and at 220-230bhp, 2700#, 4-piston calipers, better rims, alcantara everything, NAV, etc. the STi should be pretty nice. But I'm not bent on it. Tell me, what would you recommend? I was looking to downsize into a $30-35K car in about 3 years before I built a house, but since...here we are, I'm taking the move a bit early.
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hey wait a minute. you mentioned you weren't going to buy another japanese car on another thread.
Not another Nissan. Subaru is a totally different company and their cars are made with a different mindset. I calmed down since that thread and realized that if Ford and Chevy can be very different, so can Nissan and another company in the same country.
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Doubt it's totaled

Sucks!
I agree. I am hoping the structure is tweaked, though. Will know something in a few days, maybe. $72/day rental car fees will make the insurance company hop up. That was literally the ONLY car they had on the lot, too, so I could not have chosen a cheaper one within their rental guidelines, so that's all on them, and I'm not paying a dime of it. Scorched earth all the way on this one. Give me what I deserve, or I'll give you a lawyer bill on top of it. Someone THEY insured caused depreciation, damage, and now I legitimately do have a killer headache. Going to Dr. tomorrow. I'm sure stuff is out of place.

I really do hope they play nice with this. I don't want a dime more than I deserve (repairs/total, depreciation if not totaled, and medical care for back/neck anything else, covered.). But I certainly won't take a dime less. Fair is fair, and their driver dicked up. Now they can do what their driver has been paying them to do.
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Sorry about your luck and seeing your pictures makes me feel better about having my Z tucked away in my garage until winter is finished. Good luck with the repairs.
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Sorry about your luck and seeing your pictures makes me feel better about having my Z tucked away in my garage until winter is finished. Good luck with the repairs.
Indeed. I drove my 370Z every day and I still don't regret it. I used to do what you do, but I don't pay for it just to look at it, that was my C6 Z06, and when I sold it, I couldn't help but feel like I had cheated myself by putting it on a pedestal. You pay, you play---one way or another. Like you paying a note for something you don't use. That's what I did with the Z06. One year of ownership, 4K miles.
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Ouch! Shedding a tear for you bro. That hurts to see to such a beautiful car.
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Didn't you just get your Z not too long ago? You had issues getting the perfect Z and now it's messed up.


Sorry about the luck man. Hope it works out.
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Didn't you just get your Z not too long ago? You had issues getting the perfect Z and now it's messed up.


Sorry about the luck man. Hope it works out.
It took 3 months to find, I got it March, I believe it was. 17K miles on the odo. Yeah. Not happy.
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Not another Nissan. Subaru is a totally different company and their cars are made with a different mindset. I calmed down since that thread and realized that if Ford and Chevy can be very different, so can Nissan and another company in the same country.
oh okay, sounds good. cause your previous post was just talking hate and distaste about the entire japanese car manufacturer's mind set. aka, the whole car manufacturing industry of japan, you were basically saying, can go f- a horse and eat it.

im glad you changed your way of thinking cause that actually works more to your advantage.
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Update: The shop I had the car towed to, I told the insurance company was NOT the place I wanted to do the work, it was only towed there because that was the shop that happened to send the wrecker when the police called.

I came to see why it had not been transferred to the chosen shop to be worked on, and saw my car in parts on their shop floor. They told me they were "working on it". That they had started repairs. WTF?! I did not authorize that, in fact, I said to the insurance agent that they were NOT! the shop. Further, I got an estimate from them that I had not been told about, and they are going to REPAIR my rear bumper!? WTF It's a 2012 with 17K miles and a bunch of F'ed up parts, and you're going to REPAIR and BUFF OUT and FIBERGLASS (or whatever) the bumper!?

F THAT!

I also have run into some medical problems because of this. It's been stressing me the F out, and for the first time in 27 years, never before happened, I had a legit panic attack and was taken to the ER (I work in a hospital, so basically I was taken to another floor where our ER is). My EKG showed ST wave depression, QT interval of mid 500ms, and my BP was 190/90's and "resting" HR was 130's. I had been stressing over this wreck, the car, and I guess there is a subconscious component of having been in the wreck, according to my MD, and had a bit of a stressful night at work, and it all piled up and got me taken to the ER. I've had bad nights before, easily worse, and it didn't result in this. It wasn't "getting worked up". It was a PHYSICAL type thing. I can't explain it, and I didn't even know it existed in the way it does. I legitimately thought I was having an MI, and I work critical care for a living. I'm not trying to milk this or anything. I have prescriptions for Valium and Xanax and have not filled them yet, even. I'm legitimately worried this might happen again.

On the bright side, my family MD did another EKG today (well, yesterday, technically) and it was completely normal, my QT interval was in the mid 300's, and no ST depression was shown. He is saying it was a stress reaction and that the wreck definitely contributed (Wreck was Jan 15, I had this episode around 7am Jan 18).

Anyway, all of this going on, I just turned it over to my lawyer and he is going to figure out WTF!? someone was thinking authorizing MY PROPERTY to be torn apart WITHOUT my knowledge or consent. Further, make sure I am properly reimbursed for all of this other mess.

Oh, Jan 16 was my birthday. F my life for the time being

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I know it sucks, and its easy for me to say, but try not to stress it too much. Its just a car and it will all work out in the end. Just insist on it getting moved to the right shop and don't give up.

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Update: The shop I had the car towed to, I told the insurance company was NOT the place I wanted to do the work, it was only towed there because that was the shop that happened to send the wrecker when the police called.

I came to see why it had not been transferred to the chosen shop to be worked on, and saw my car in parts on their shop floor. They told me they were "working on it". That they had started repairs. WTF?! I did not authorize that, in fact, I said to the insurance agent that they were NOT! the shop. Further, I got an estimate from them that I had not been told about, and they are going to REPAIR my rear bumper!? WTF It's a 2012 with 17K miles and a bunch of F'ed up parts, and you're going to REPAIR and BUFF OUT and FIBERGLASS (or whatever) the bumper!?

F THAT!

I also have run into some medical problems because of this. It's been stressing me the F out, and for the first time in 27 years, never before happened, I had a legit panic attack and was taken to the ER (I work in a hospital, so basically I was taken to another floor where our ER is). My EKG showed ST wave depression, QT interval of mid 500ms, and my BP was 190/90's and "resting" HR was 130's. I had been stressing over this wreck, the car, and I guess there is a subconscious component of having been in the wreck, according to my MD, and had a bit of a stressful night at work, and it all piled up and got me taken to the ER. I've had bad nights before, easily worse, and it didn't result in this. It wasn't "getting worked up". It was a PHYSICAL type thing. I can't explain it, and I didn't even know it existed in the way it does. I legitimately thought I was having an MI, and I work critical care for a living. I'm not trying to milk this or anything. I have prescriptions for Valium and Xanax and have not filled them yet, even. I'm legitimately worried this might happen again.

On the bright side, my family MD did another EKG today (well, yesterday, technically) and it was completely normal, my QT interval was in the mid 300's, and no ST depression was shown. He is saying it was a stress reaction and that the wreck definitely contributed (Wreck was Jan 15, I had this episode around 7am Jan 18).

Anyway, all of this going on, I just turned it over to my lawyer and he is going to figure out WTF!? someone was thinking authorizing MY PROPERTY to be torn apart WITHOUT my knowledge or consent. Further, make sure I am properly reimbursed for all of this other mess.

Oh, Jan 16 was my birthday. F my life for the time being
holy crap. that sucks. hang in there. i cant remember if it was when i was 26 or 27, but i had like a whole f-king year of bad luck one after the other. i just sat low and hung tight until things turned my way.
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I know it sucks, and its easy for me to say, but try not to stress it too much. Its just a car and it will all work out in the end. Just insist on it getting moved to the right shop and don't give up.

Hope it all works out for you.
I asked my MD WTF?! I told him I deal with people dying, stress, all that at work, and it has NEVER affected me this way. He says that it's a physical reaction to stress and cannot be controlled. It's not like "sit tight and chill out, think that it's going to be okay". This isn't caused so much by the conscious as it is a physiological reaction. Kindof like your pulse rising when you run, so to speak. I've never had this until now, a couple of days after the wreck. I'm really hoping it doesn't happen again. It was literally the scariest thing that has ever happened to me, bar none.

I have a good lawyer and the money will all work out, and the car will roll again, but the panic attack deal was just over the top. It wasn't emotional, I was being "calm" when it happened, I thought. I was sitting, wasn't running around, wasn't fidgeting hardcore, I was just physically degrading BADLY. The only sign I wasn't calm was that I was scared as **** and hyperventilating. I cannot describe it to you, because I couldn't understand it until it happened to me. I just glossed over that in clinicals and never encountered it in my practice, I just cannot describe the sensation of fear and "doom", but I will try.

Imagine someone has stuck your head through a sheet. A bad someone. Someone maybe who broke into your house and has first tied you in a chair. Now they lift the sheet, shove the barrel of a shotgun under there where you cant see, and pull the trigger while punching the barrel into your chest, except they are just messing with you. The shot purposefully goes wide, you feel no pain except them slamming the barrel into you and you're terrified you've been shot in the chest and have seconds/minutes at best to live, but they won't let you see under the sheet, so you're stuck imagining how back you are F'ed up. Then they laugh at you.

That's how I felt. Obviously totally different circumstances,and the people around me were being very helpful, taking my BP, glucose, O2 sat (I work in a hospital in critical and intermediate care.), etc. But those are the emotions and the level of fear I felt. Insane and off the charts. It even F'ed my EKG up to the point that the MD in the ER STRONGLY emphasized my need for a follow-up EKG. Depressed ST waves and a Q-T interval in the mid 500ms range. Luckily, my EKG is back to normal. Also as a reaction to that stress, by WBC count went to 17K, and my blood glucose went to the high 160's. I am fit, healthy, and not fighting infection. My BG normally is in the 100-113 range. That's how "real" the panic you feel during that is. It's not a "calm down, man, life will be okay" moment. I didn't even know I was freaking out until I saw my BP, and then got scared because of that, then my hands began going numb and that freaked me out more. I just thought my blood sugar was low at first.
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I asked my MD WTF?! I told him I deal with people dying, stress, all that at work, and it has NEVER affected me this way. He says that it's a physical reaction to stress and cannot be controlled. It's not like "sit tight and chill out, think that it's going to be okay". This isn't caused so much by the conscious as it is a physiological reaction. Kindof like your pulse rising when you run, so to speak. I've never had this until now, a couple of days after the wreck. I'm really hoping it doesn't happen again. It was literally the scariest thing that has ever happened to me, bar none.

I have a good lawyer and the money will all work out, and the car will roll again, but the panic attack deal was just over the top. It wasn't emotional, I was being "calm" when it happened, I thought. I was sitting, wasn't running around, wasn't fidgeting hardcore, I was just physically degrading BADLY. The only sign I wasn't calm was that I was scared as **** and hyperventilating. I cannot describe it to you, because I couldn't understand it until it happened to me. I just glossed over that in clinicals and never encountered it in my practice, I just cannot describe the sensation of fear and "doom", but I will try.

Imagine someone has stuck your head through a sheet. A bad someone. Someone maybe who broke into your house and has first tied you in a chair. Now they lift the sheet, shove the barrel of a shotgun under there where you cant see, and pull the trigger while punching the barrel into your chest, except they are just messing with you. The shot purposefully goes wide, you feel no pain except them slamming the barrel into you and you're terrified you've been shot in the chest and have seconds/minutes at best to live, but they won't let you see under the sheet, so you're stuck imagining how back you are F'ed up. Then they laugh at you.

That's how I felt. Obviously totally different circumstances,and the people around me were being very helpful, taking my BP, glucose, O2 sat (I work in a hospital in critical and intermediate care.), etc. But those are the emotions and the level of fear I felt. Insane and off the charts. It even F'ed my EKG up to the point that the MD in the ER STRONGLY emphasized my need for a follow-up EKG. Depressed ST waves and a Q-T interval in the mid 500ms range. Luckily, my EKG is back to normal. Also as a reaction to that stress, by WBC count went to 17K, and my blood glucose went to the high 160's. I am fit, healthy, and not fighting infection. My BG normally is in the 100-113 range. That's how "real" the panic you feel during that is. It's not a "calm down, man, life will be okay" moment. I didn't even know I was freaking out until I saw my BP, and then got scared because of that, then my hands began going numb and that freaked me out more. I just thought my blood sugar was low at first.
Wow. This is awful. Treat yourself like an older patient, and take a baby asprin every day, till this passes. No strokes for you.

I know you carry a gun, so be careful that you are not quick to anger or scare.

I have found that excercise such as walking miles helps.

Lastly, I do not know your politics but since the election many folks are anxious, especially gun folk.

Relax somehow and this will pass.
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Wow. This is awful. Treat yourself like an older patient, and take a baby asprin every day, till this passes. No strokes for you.

I know you carry a gun, so be careful that you are not quick to anger or scare.

I have found that excercise such as walking miles helps.

Lastly, I do not know your politics but since the election many folks are anxious, especially gun folk.

Relax somehow and this will pass.
Like I said, it's not an emotional thing. I'm calm emotionally, and was at the time until I freaked out about "something's SERIOUSLY (I thought) WRONG!"

I'm still calm, level, etc.

For the next 4 weeks or so, though, I am not drinking any caffeine. They gave me scripts for Valium and Xanax, and I have not even filled those yet. I honestly don't know when I would even take one, because I refuse to go to work, drive, or carry when I have had even 1 alcoholic drink. Same for stuff like that.

Personally, I hope this never happens again, but if it did, me carrying a weapon would not be a factor. It's like saying "someone in their 50's shouldn't carry because they could have a heart-attack". The experience is VERY similar, so I hear. You don't "freak out" and want to start shooting or punching or anything crazy. Certainly not a hazard to carry if you have a panic attack. Like I said, It's super hard to explain, but just think of how you feel after sprinting 100m. That's how I felt sitting stock still. It scared the hell out of me, and that led to it getting worse...Definitely not a risk for a CCW'er, just a helluva horrible experience.

My MD said that this may be the only time it ever happens. As far as it affecting my performance, I stabilized the patient I was working with at the time, called the MD about a change in their condition, and hung ABX on another patient, and then went and sat down, and that is when I started feeling really bad. I went and got OJ b/c I thought my glucose was low. I then got more. I then asked someone to check my sugar, etc. Total voluntary control of my actions, etc.

I dunno, I'm sorry to go on and on about it, I just didn't know wtf a "panic-attack" was, and I'm trying to help others understand now that I definitely do

The only time I was "goofy" was when I was in the ER and I was CONVINCED this was an MI, and they kept saying stuff like "Well, you're not having the Big One, buddy" and I was asking "Am I having ANY!? one?" and I started asking things like "Are you guys just trying to keep me calm by not telling me?" I wasn't angry or combative, I was just scared as hell and being untrusting. That is even in the MD's notes.

Anyway, just trying to educate people who have never experienced this, and I hope you never do, but that's the only way you will "get it", so I hope you don't ever really understand what I'm saying, but....


...Panic Attacks cannot kill you, do not make you unsafe carrying, driving, etc., are not emotional--they are physiological responses to things.

That's what I got from my MD on it in short.

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