I think I'm Shifting Wrong

Mt Tam I am · 01-16-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

I only got 8k out of the stock rear tires

So far I have resisted the urge to spin my new set.....

Didn't buy it just to commute in it. Gotta have some fun!

I wish I could get 8K miles out of a set, and I do not spin the tires. I am on my third set, original plus two, and I've got 15,500 miles total. It is the fronts that go first.

JARblue · 01-16-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I wish I could get 8K miles out of a set, and I do not spin the tires. I am on my third set, original plus two, and I've got 15,500 miles total. It is the fronts that go first.

On the flip side of that, I wish I could go to tracks and get less than 5K out of my tires

scope22 · 01-16-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC

Kinda hard to answer, what do u mean?

Sorry, retard gene kicked in.....I mean what is your shifting procedure for fast takeoffs, do you rev up and dump the clutch or wait for clutch to hook up and floor it?

R0bDC · 01-16-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22

Sorry, retard gene kicked in.....I mean what is your shifting procedure for fast take offs, do you rev up and dump the clutch or wait for clutch to hook up and floor it?

This is what I do! I take off on first gear hit like 5k Rpms, press the clutch. Shift to second gear, not so fast but not so slow i take out the clutch, and so on. What do ppl mean by "dump the clutch" "wait for clutch to hook up and floor it?"

Haboob · 01-16-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

I only got 8k out of the stock rear tires

So far I have resisted the urge to spin my new set.....

Didn't buy it just to commute in it. Gotta have some fun!

Definitely. I have my moments of fun, but I'm such a cheap-*** that the price of the tires sticks in my mind and keeps me from being stupid sometimes (probably saves me a ticket or something too

)

Especially since it's just a month old. This all may change later on.

JARblue · 01-16-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC

This is what I do! I take off on first gear hit like 5k Rpms, press the clutch. Shift to second gear, not so fast but not so slow i take out the clutch, and so on. What do ppl mean by "dump the clutch" "wait for clutch to hook up and floor it?"

Dump the clutch = rev up in neutral with shift knob in first, then let go of the clutch completely (dumping it) when your RPMs are up high - this creates much more wear on the clutch than the method below

Wait for the clutch = floor the accelerator once the gear is engaged but the RPMs at the shift are reasonable

VDC_OFF · 01-16-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I wish I could get 8K miles out of a set, and I do not spin the tires. I am on my third set, original plus two, and I've got 15,500 miles total. It is the fronts that go first.

Really? I usually find my rears go like 2-3x as fast. I do spin the tires sometimes when I make uturns for fun but thats maybe like once or twice a month....I think

scope22 · 01-16-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC

This is what I do! I take off on first gear hit like 5k Rpms, press the clutch. Shift to second gear, not so fast but not so slow i take out the clutch, and so on. What do ppl mean by "dump the clutch" "wait for clutch to hook up and floor it?"

Dump the clutch means you rev up to say 3K RMP with clutch pressed, then you release the clutch very fast by either moving your foot up fast or moving it to the side and clutch will pop back up, i haven't done this because i'm not sure if it will cause more wear, but there are lots of you tube videos...

R0bDC · 01-16-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Dump the clutch = rev up in neutral with shift knob in first, then let go of the clutch completely (dumping it) when your RPMs are up high - this creates much more wear on the clutch than the method below

Wait for the clutch = floor the accelerator once the gear is engaged but the RPMs at the shift are reasonable

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Originally Posted by scope22

Dump the clutch means you rev up to say 3K RMP with clutch pressed, then you release the clutch very fast by either moving your foot up fast or moving it to the side and clutch will pop back up, i haven't done this because i'm not sure if it will cause more wear, but there are lots of you tube videos...

So when u are in first gear with the clutch pressed you rev then just let it go. Sounds like a recipe for disaster!

kenchan · 01-16-2013, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC

I have the Z! It shouldn't be a question whether I'm ready or not! Lol

this is exactly wat i mean...

be careful out there. more than anything, be responsible.

speedfreek · 01-16-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

I wish I could get 8K miles out of a set, and I do not spin the tires. I am on my third set, original plus two, and I've got 15,500 miles total. It is the fronts that go first.

Well mine were a combination of spinning them a little too much and hard cornering. I have been taking it easy on my new set....til Spring! I hope to get at least 15k out of them but would like to see closer to 20k. Good rubber doesn't come cheap.

JARblue · 01-16-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC

So when u are in first gear with the clutch pressed you rev then just let it go. Sounds like a recipe for disaster!

Yup! And it can be... unless you know what you're doing

please don't ever practice this on public roads - it is a maneuver for track or drag strip only

Mt Tam I am · 01-16-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

Really? I usually find my rears go like 2-3x as fast. I do spin the tires sometimes when I make uturns for fun but thats maybe like once or twice a month....I think

Really. My fate for years. Annual fronts semi annual complete. Now it is annual replacement of all four. I do not look at it like a waste; quite the opposite, it means the stays car is on the road during hard cornering, like the tires. Going to the track wears them out 10 - 20% faster I figure.

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

Well mine were a combination of spinning them a little too much and hard cornering. I have been taking it easy on my new set....til Spring! I hope to get at least 15k out of them but would like to see closer to 20k. Good rubber doesn't come cheap.

My very first tires did spin a little as I got used to the cars power. Never black patches laid down over distance except once. A learning experience not to be repeated.

Good luck getting more life from the tires.

JARblue · 01-16-2013, 01:55 PM

We got <10K mile out of the stock Potenzas with my wife doing daily highway driving. I switched to Nitto Invo rears in Jan 2012 and the car became my DD in July 2012. I just replaced all four wheels with new Nitto Invo tires in Dec after getting 20K on them. And I can guarantee you I was harder on those tires in 6 months than we were on the Potenzas over their entire life. I definitely let the tires loose on corners every so often, but usually I wait for a bit of rain - I can have a lot more fun for the same amount of wear on the tires

R0bDC · 01-22-2013, 03:24 PM

Does the Gear lock if you dont shift fast enough?

While I was driving today I was shifting to second, and I swear I felt as if it was locking. Then I started shifting Faster and it felt smoother So back to my question.

If you shift fast, Does that make it smoother? and If you shift slower does that make it seem stiffer?

Now thinking back I never shifted fast, but now Im going to start. It feels a lot better.

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	We got <10K mile out of the stock Potenzas with my wife doing daily highway driving. I switched to Nitto Invo rears in Jan 2012 and the car became my DD in July 2012. I just replaced all four wheels with new Nitto Invo tires in Dec after getting 20K on them. And I can guarantee you I was harder on those tires in 6 months than we were on the Potenzas over their entire life. I definitely let the tires loose on corners every so often, but usually I wait for a bit of rain - I can have a lot more fun for the same amount of wear on the tires Mt Tam I am likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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R0bDC Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: California Posts: 307 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 13	Does the Gear lock if you dont shift fast enough? While I was driving today I was shifting to second, and I swear I felt as if it was locking. Then I started shifting Faster and it felt smoother So back to my question. If you shift fast, Does that make it smoother? and If you shift slower does that make it seem stiffer? Now thinking back I never shifted fast, but now Im going to start. It feels a lot better.