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From my understanding it's not necessarily a safety issue... Those get more attention because of the Fight Club formula, which IS true, and the way recalls are coordinated. "A new

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Old 01-09-2013, 09:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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From my understanding it's not necessarily a safety issue... Those get more attention because of the Fight Club formula, which IS true, and the way recalls are coordinated.

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60MPH, the rear differential locks up...
The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside...
Now... Should we initiate a recall?
Take the number of vehicles in the field (A)
Multiply it by the probable rate of failure(B)
Then multiply the result by the average out of court settlement (C) [in our case, cost of replacing the steering lock]
(A) times (B) times (C) equals (X) A*B*C=X
If "X" is LESS than the cost of a recall, we don't do one



Now, everyone pulling their steering locks BEFORE their warranty is up is ruining your stats... That's why mine is firmly in place


And YES I agree, if you have one, it WILL eventually fail... But if you're disabling it, or you drove a lot and didn't buy a warranty or the opposite, you drove your car very little and 3 years came up before it failed, you're falling outside where they care and need to worry about you.


ALSO... You most likely won't be able to start a recall... You might be able to start a class action lawsuit by those who were out of warranty and had to pay out of pocket, but all of a sudden, that number becomes really low... And class action is out of the question....



Best bet... For those who get f'd, call Nissan's Ombudsman... Tell them look, this is BS, it was recalled on the GTR, why not this car, it's EXACTLY the same and this is more a driver's DD car... See what happens
The only reason IMO they DID a recall for the GTR is that it's twice the price, and you don't want to piss customers off who paid 100k for a car
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triples has a post in the interior / exterior section. its a sticky at the top.

pass the word along.
I saw that post. I'm talking about something where we can all sign up. Kind of like a petition for Nissan to fix this. The current post is only for those who have had the problem and it's not even a full list. I'm thinking a petition list in conjunction with every post created so far regarding the issue might be enough for Nissan to do something. Especially if we could coordinate with the GTR and maxima members on their boards.
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I hear that Corvettes also have the steering lock issue (an owner posted here recently as he was looking for a Z as a DD) I wonder if its as wide spread as the Z though?

Its crazy how it was one or two guys this summer and then BOOM, everyone right and left
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From my understanding it's not necessarily a safety issue... Those get more attention because of the Fight Club formula, which IS true, and the way recalls are coordinated.

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60MPH, the rear differential locks up...
The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside...
Now... Should we initiate a recall?
Take the number of vehicles in the field (A)
Multiply it by the probable rate of failure(B)
Then multiply the result by the average out of court settlement (C) [in our case, cost of replacing the steering lock]
(A) times (B) times (C) equals (X) A*B*C=X
If "X" is LESS than the cost of a recall, we don't do one



Now, everyone pulling their steering locks BEFORE their warranty is up is ruining your stats... That's why mine is firmly in place


And YES I agree, if you have one, it WILL eventually fail... But if you're disabling it, or you drove a lot and didn't buy a warranty or the opposite, you drove your car very little and 3 years came up before it failed, you're falling outside where they care and need to worry about you.


ALSO... You most likely won't be able to start a recall... You might be able to start a class action lawsuit by those who were out of warranty and had to pay out of pocket, but all of a sudden, that number becomes really low... And class action is out of the question....



Best bet... For those who get f'd, call Nissan's Ombudsman... Tell them look, this is BS, it was recalled on the GTR, why not this car, it's EXACTLY the same and this is more a driver's DD car... See what happens
The only reason IMO they DID a recall for the GTR is that it's twice the price, and you don't want to piss customers off who paid 100k for a car
Thanks for the information! Really helps
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I hear that Corvettes also have the steering lock issue (an owner posted here recently as he was looking for a Z as a DD) I wonder if its as wide spread as the Z though?

Its crazy how it was one or two guys this summer and then BOOM, everyone right and left
It's same as the t virus from the umbrella corporation... I am the one hasn't got infected, yet. But don't after me for the cure... Great thread.
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Could it not be argued that the knowledge off the failures is causing people to pull thier fuses? This is now a safety issue since the car no longer has a steering lock.
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Could it not be argued that the knowledge off the failures is causing people to pull thier fuses? This is now a safety issue since the car no longer has a steering lock.
Good Point! Noted!
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Could it not be argued that the knowledge off the failures is causing people to pull thier fuses? This is now a safety issue since the car no longer has a steering lock.
I don't get it?

The pulling of a fuse is 100% NOT ok by Nissan... That is DIRECTLY tampering with a "fail safe", even worse if you snip the brown wire...
(now, we all know it doesn't damage anything at all)


And the steering lock isn't a safety feature per se... It's more an anti-theft device...
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I love this thread but you are preaching to the choir

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I would suggest to moving the discussion to a central thread so folks can chime in on and either get help or let others know they've had a failure since the original intent of this has changed

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