Test drove the 2013 Nismo

forza370z · 01-10-2013, 08:57 PM

Are you guys complaining the Z clutch being too soft or too stiff? Or the on/off switch kinda feeling?

LMBmikeZ · 01-10-2013, 10:05 PM

IMO the pedal feels to soft OEM.......but many people have already said this and there's many threads on the issue

SoCalBoy · 01-10-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z

Are you guys complaining the Z clutch being too soft or too stiff? Or the on/off switch kinda feeling?

both...it's drivers preference on clutch feel. I'm use to mine feeling somewhat firm. As for the SRM, My Z does not have it so I wanted to do the test drive with it on. I do understand that it takes some getting use to if one is use to rev matching their self.

daisuke149 · 01-10-2013, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

Yeah you did you dirty whore! Lol

I get TONS of satisfaction bringing people to the dark side, Automatic, lol

The 370Z's REALLY is THE best AT you can get for less than... About 100k

the gtr non black edition is less than 100k...

the porsche tranny...

vw DSG

forza370z · 01-10-2013, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBoy

both...it's drivers preference on clutch feel. I'm use to mine feeling somewhat firm. As for the SRM, My Z does not have it so I wanted to do the test drive with it on. I do understand that it takes some getting use to if one is use to rev matching their self.

I see. That's why I am confused because some people said it's too soft while others said it's too firm. I've tried VW GTI before and felt the padel is even softer but more linear.

Yeah the SRM takes little get used to. But I think it works great. It's a lazy feature for lazy people like me. Lol.

CHZ · 01-11-2013, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

the gtr non black edition is less than 100k...

the porsche tranny...

vw DSG

Hes was referring to an automatic transmission. The GTR, Porsche and VW are dual clutch manual with auto shift. Totally different design.

luigi90210 · 01-11-2013, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

Surprised so many people feel the SRM is rough, I love it, rarely turn it off. Its probably the reason I engine break lol. The downshifts are butter. Its really good for time attack as well..

Z clutch definitely takes some learning, but once you get it, its fine. More challenging to manipulate than other cars...it can make you feel like a newbie until you get it.

i definitely agree with this, i felt like a newb when i was driving my car and not getting smooth shifts at first but eventually i got used to it

SRM is amazing though, i dont know what i would do without it now because im so used to it

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i dont either. i think it's the driver.

i cant agree more, the clutch takes some getting use to but once you have that down, its easy to drive

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ

but I think the clutch helper spring is a great way to help improve the response/feedback you get from the pedal

everyone loves it that has done it!

does the clutch helper spring help out that much?
i have noticed there isnt much feed back from the clutch but i thought that was because of the OEM clutch and not the spring

daisuke149 · 01-11-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CHZ

Hes was referring to an automatic transmission. The GTR, Porsche and VW are dual clutch manual with auto shift. Totally different design.

If im not pushing in a clutch and shifting gears, its an automatic. Doesn't matter how they actually make it work mechanically, it automatically does the shifting for you. Thus an automatic.

FairladyZ · 01-11-2013, 09:49 AM

Dude you guys want to feel pussy clutch.

Go into a frs and step on the clutch.

The scions clutch is super soft and retarded. It feels like nothing. I thought the 370z was soft lol. The frs is on another level

Zoren 370 · 01-11-2013, 11:53 AM

I do not understand why so much fuz about the clutch feel on the Z. I find it perfectly fine never had any issues with it nor have the desire to change the clutch spring to make it softer.

Try driving a GT3 and then lets talk about clutch feel at the end of the day you will have calf muscles as big as loaf of bread.

cossie1600 · 01-11-2013, 12:32 PM

gt3 clutch is fine to me. the gearbox feels pretty crappy though

kenchan · 01-11-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

I do not understand why so much fuz about the clutch feel on the Z. I find it perfectly fine never had any issues with it nor have the desire to change the clutch spring to make it softer.

missing the point. it's not to make the clutch softer, it's to remove the distortion from the return spring. the pedal return feels too linear from clutch-in to out while clutch spring itself is not.

i suppose if one's not driven too many other MT cars this might feel 'normal' to them, but atleast to me, it is not. that helper spring needs to be removed/replaced to feel like a real MT clutch.

elmz · 01-11-2013, 12:49 PM

^Exactly. I actually didn't take the spring out until 2 years into it. I was perfectly fine with it(I just got used to it). But after I took it out, it was like finding an old friend. I instinctively remembered this was how it's suppose to feel like.

forza370z · 01-11-2013, 01:56 PM

^^ So the helper spring will make the pedal feels harder?

FairladyZ · 01-11-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

missing the point. it's not to make the clutch softer, it's to remove the distortion from the return spring. the pedal return feels too linear from clutch-in to out while clutch spring itself is not.

i suppose if one's not driven too many other MT cars this might feel 'normal' to them, but atleast to me, it is not. that helper spring needs to be removed/replaced to feel like a real MT clutch.

Maybe I'm weird, I thought the spring mod made it feel like **** cause of the slop and free play up top.

It made the clutch points more predictable so you know when it grabs but the ridiculous amount if pedal sloppiness turned me off.

Basically I took it off, now I drive stock and completely forget how bad I use to think it was. I got use to it, it takes time

The sti clutch is so much better, I had a 2005

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01-10-2013, 08:57 PM	#46 (permalink)
forza370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 403 Forbidden Posts: 2,512 Drives: 2009 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 19	Are you guys complaining the Z clutch being too soft or too stiff? Or the on/off switch kinda feeling?

01-11-2013, 09:49 AM	#54 (permalink)
FairladyZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 850 Drives: 2012 370Z TRNG SPRT Rep Power: 17	Dude you guys want to feel pussy clutch. Go into a frs and step on the clutch. The scions clutch is super soft and retarded. It feels like nothing. I thought the 370z was soft lol. The frs is on another level

01-11-2013, 11:53 AM	#55 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913653	I do not understand why so much fuz about the clutch feel on the Z. I find it perfectly fine never had any issues with it nor have the desire to change the clutch spring to make it softer. Try driving a GT3 and then lets talk about clutch feel at the end of the day you will have calf muscles as big as loaf of bread.

01-11-2013, 12:32 PM	#56 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	gt3 clutch is fine to me. the gearbox feels pretty crappy though

01-11-2013, 12:49 PM	#58 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	^Exactly. I actually didn't take the spring out until 2 years into it. I was perfectly fine with it(I just got used to it). But after I took it out, it was like finding an old friend. I instinctively remembered this was how it's suppose to feel like.

01-11-2013, 01:56 PM	#59 (permalink)
forza370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: 403 Forbidden Posts: 2,512 Drives: 2009 NISMO 370Z Rep Power: 19	^^ So the helper spring will make the pedal feels harder?