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kidkotic2001 12-11-2012 11:01 AM

remote start for Z
 
Its been cold lately and I have been driving my Z around since my Wife is using the Jeep. We are babied in the Jeep with remote start and the heater and heated seats turning on.

I was wondering if anyone has installed a remote start to the Z. I would like that feature in the next gen and a good reliable third party kit for my current Z.

90 ST 12-11-2012 11:25 AM

i haven't but i know they can be done very easy.

Haboob 12-11-2012 12:23 PM

Just don't leave it in gear when you park...

90 ST 12-13-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2055089)
Just don't leave it in gear when you park...

they make starters for stick cars too...

Haboob 12-13-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 2058373)
they make starters for stick cars too...

Ah, didn't know that, but still, would worry me a bit. :icon17:

kidkotic2001 12-13-2012 12:57 PM

LOL I was thinking that too, I will be calling some places here to see how much to install.

FairladyZ 12-13-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2055089)
Just don't leave it in gear when you park...

My friend had a wrx 2003 back then with remote start.

It was in gear, and the car rammed me a little. good thing i didnt get hurt.

SouthArk370Z 12-13-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2055089)
Just don't leave it in gear when you park...

Shouldn't be a problem. For automatics, there's the Park/Neutral Position switch. I assume there is something similar for neutral in manuals.

DEpointfive0 12-13-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 2058373)
they make starters for stick cars too...

They do, but have you heard about the failures? Lol

DEpointfive0 12-13-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2058652)
Shouldn't be a problem. For automatics, there's the Park/Neutral Position switch. I assume there is something similar for neutral in manuals.

They have to wire up a clutch pressed in/bypass mode too, that's what gets you... Because the clutch won't actually be pressed in, so you'll start your car, and hey presto, your car is through the wall of your garage

kidkotic2001 12-13-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2058714)
They have to wire up a clutch pressed in/bypass mode too, that's what gets you... Because the clutch won't actually be pressed in, so you'll start your car, and hey presto, your car is through the wall of your garage

I could see it now wife turns on car I lft it in gear and bam car is now in the back yard. :roflpuke2:

Jasonle 12-13-2012 02:51 PM

I had one installed on my manual car...but decided to uninstall it. it was nice but everytime I get my car serviced somewhere...I get nervous. Now I'm worried free. And I got a DD for winter..I don't really need the starter.

RonRizz 12-13-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2058652)
Shouldn't be a problem. For automatics, there's the Park/Neutral Position switch. I assume there is something similar for neutral in manuals.

Southark is correct on this. It also monitors the e-brake.

DEpointfive0 12-13-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 2058718)
I could see it now wife turns on car I lft it in gear and bam car is now in the back yard. :roflpuke2:

I've seen it happen

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Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2058719)
I had one installed on my manual car...but decided to uninstall it. it was nice but everytime I get my car serviced somewhere...I get nervous. Now I'm worried free. And I got a DD for winter..I don't really need the starter.

I actually saw it in this scenario, it was at a shop getting worked on, remote start got engaged... And hey presto, the car was now in the fron of the store, as well as the wall... LOL

vrfreak 12-13-2012 03:04 PM

i had one installed in my 350 and never had any problems just gotta engage ebrake and put in neutral or it wont start obviously

peleincubus 12-14-2012 02:15 AM

how much does this typically cost?

RonRizz 12-14-2012 07:09 AM

figure on about $300 +/- depending on your area.

kidkotic2001 12-14-2012 09:38 AM

I was passing by a shop and I stopped by to ask in my area this shop was charging me 350.00

FairladyZ 12-14-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vrfreak (Post 2058734)
i had one installed in my 350 and never had any problems just gotta engage ebrake and put in neutral or it wont start obviously

boy has thngs changed.

10 years ago, i got rammed

I dont think this feature was made yet

kidkotic2001 12-14-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2060156)
boy has thngs changed.

10 years ago, i got rammed

I dont think this feature was made yet

it must not have been a pretty site.

wdkwang 12-14-2012 09:37 PM

my friend put a viper system in his 370 a few months ago. works just fine. you just can't leave it in gear.

SouthArk370Z 12-14-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2058714)
They have to wire up a clutch pressed in/bypass mode too, that's what gets you... Because the clutch won't actually be pressed in, so you'll start your car, and hey presto, your car is through the wall of your garage

Ah. Autos use the PNP switch and manuals use the clutch depressed switch. That could be a problem. Another plus for the 7AT. ;)

Dsevast 12-15-2012 08:07 AM

I just installed one in my Honda (my DD). I was reading the manual to see how to start the car if it was installed on a manual car. The procedure is as follows.

while the car is still running:
put the car in neutral
apply the parking break
hit the remote start button on the remote
remove the key from the ignition (the car should continue to run)
get out of the car and shut all the doors
hit lock/arm on the remote.

when you hit lock on the remote the car's engine should shut off and activate the remote start the next time you try to start it. This procedure needs to be done everytime you leave your car otherwise the system won't even attempt to remote start.

all that being said it's still kind of a scary thought to have it done on a manual car, and that's why I would never do it to my Z, also because I only drive it here in the summers!!

Jasonle 12-15-2012 08:36 AM

I agree. it is very scary. I had mine installed with a "kill switch" to where if I leave my car at the shop I flipped that hidden switch and the remote start won't work at all. But all it takes is for me to forget to switch that switch and somebody accidentally remote start the car (if car was left in gear parked) and bam there goes the car. I just feel more comfortable now with it uninstalled and knowing that something I don't need to worry about. and like I said I got my dd and its a automatic. I might put a starter on that :)

mhcoss 12-18-2012 03:45 AM

I've got a remote start on my standard car that I drive in winter. It is impossible to start it in gear. Here is how it works:

When I park somewhere I remove the key and the engine stays running. The engine continues to run until I exit the vehicle at which case it locks all the doors and shuts off the engine. If the car does not shut of in this manner then the remote start will not work. Also if any door to the vehicle is opened the car will not remote start. Pretty fool proof system, its literally impossible to remote start the vehicle in gear unless you climb through a window to put it in gear after its shut off.

kidkotic2001 12-18-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 2064980)
I've got a remote start on my standard car that I drive in winter. It is impossible to start it in gear. Here is how it works:

When I park somewhere I remove the key and the engine stays running. The engine continues to run until I exit the vehicle at which case it locks all the doors and shuts off the engine. If the car does not shut of in this manner then the remote start will not work. Also if any door to the vehicle is opened the car will not remote start. Pretty fool proof system, its literally impossible to remote start the vehicle in gear unless you climb through a window to put it in gear after its shut off.

Never heard of this method before but sounds like it would work. Is that how the remote start was installed or did the installer have to modify it.

RonRizz 12-18-2012 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 2064980)
its literally impossible to remote start the vehicle in gear unless you climb through a window to put it in gear after its shut off.

even in that event...The car WILL NOT crank if the shifter is in anything other than nuetral.

mhcoss 12-18-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 2065149)
Never heard of this method before but sounds like it would work. Is that how the remote start was installed or did the installer have to modify it.

They come like that, its a compustar system.


Here is a user manual of a typical compustar system... Go read the section on reservation mode for manuals. Its on page 9

http://www.compustar.com/UserManuals/1W_4B_EN.pdf

mhcoss 12-18-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RonRizz (Post 2065211)
even in that event...The car WILL NOT crank if the shifter is in anything other than nuetral.

Interesting.. i'm not sure my old car has a sensor like that.

UNKNOWN_370 12-18-2012 09:13 PM

Here's a thread from yester-year some of you may find interesting
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...YqO7y-3nVVdqQQ

90 ST 12-19-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 2065149)
Never heard of this method before but sounds like it would work. Is that how the remote start was installed or did the installer have to modify it.

Most starters for atleast the 10 plus years i've been dealing with starters have had a simaler deal. however back then there wasn't a lot of starters for MT cars, so some would install one for an AT and then you have problem of cars rolling into things...being in Canada i see, i'm betting A LOT more starters then some of you, here it's very common for a MT car to have a starter.

bigaudiofanat 01-15-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 2060633)
my friend put a viper system in his 370 a few months ago. works just fine. you just can't leave it in gear.

All new remote starts can be setup to run with manual trans. They also (if installed properly) will not even try to start if the far is in gear. Compustar actually even has a extra module for manuals that if it sense any moment during start it will shut down.

bigaudiofanat 01-15-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jasonle (Post 2061010)
I agree. it is very scary. I had mine installed with a "kill switch" to where if I leave my car at the shop I flipped that hidden switch and the remote start won't work at all. But all it takes is for me to forget to switch that switch and somebody accidentally remote start the car (if car was left in gear parked) and bam there goes the car. I just feel more comfortable now with it uninstalled and knowing that something I don't need to worry about. and like I said I got my dd and its a automatic. I might put a starter on that :)

These actually HAVE to be installed now or the remote start will not even engage. I tried with my sisters car and it would not even engage until the switch was installed.

chknhawk 01-15-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kidkotic2001 (Post 2058718)
I could see it now wife turns on car I lft it in gear and bam car is now in the back yard. :roflpuke2:

Thats one way to get rid of her... .the wife that is. lol.. J/K

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