The next gen Z!

UNKNOWN_370

I dunno bout that bruh... I threw the Jeep wrangler unlimited in the mix when I bought the G37s. And I'm contemplating one again. My dilemma is stay in the sports arena or go off-road. Again, the Jeep wrangler is in the same price point as the Z. Of course I want to see what happens in the sports car world. But I have the JW unlimited in my sights as well.
The general concensus will generally look at cars in the same price point. AND I agree with that...

BUT... When you look at it... Any and every other reason outside of price is personal preference. Also, for most. A mustang buyer may call a Z a complete non competitor based on it being two seats. Whether its due to carrying people, storage space or needing back seats for that booming system. 6 out of 10buyers know they either want a 2 seater or 4 seater. Most don't cross-shop both. And when people need a 4 seater, but opt for the 2 seater for cool factor? That car will be traded for something else in a year or 2. You can throw in a 5.0 and do the same thing... But it pretty much ends there.
This is why imho... the true competition lies in power, suspension and technology within a certain price constraint. Give or take $10k, But this price shyt taken to another level makes things too unspecific...

For example a loaded v6 mustang and a base +sport Z while not true competitors either. Share enough. Tech specs to compare specs. So maybe we don't expect the stang to win. But the comparo would be. What percentage of performance can the stang v6 offer against a Z in spite of the price deficit. Now the Z may outperform at $37k vs the stang $32k. But I would say this. The stang creates x amount of grip, can do this that and the other. With a price deficit of $5k. You are getting a good deal. If you shell out another $5k, you can have the Z which offers XYZ. But @ 32k. The stang will offer you abc amenities vs a Z that will be bare. Make sense?

But throwing both on the same track would be dumb inho. So I wouldn't compare beyond that.

m4a1mustang

Yeah but we're kind of different. I was shopping for a Frontier and ended up with an S2000.


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Yes, the stang is cheaper and faster than the z... Back on topic.

b1adesofcha0s

Next gen G is going to be revealed at the Detroit Auto Show in January (along with the C7) so that should give us an idea of what we can expect for the next Z's engine.

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JungleZ

WOW no thanks on the new C7, they are going with Camaro esque tailights it looks like..I cant afford it anyways but Time to save for a used Z06 unless the new Z can blow my mind.

zguynate

I think I read somewhere that Nissan and Infiniti were going to divorce the Z/G union and make them completely separate cars. That the two would no longer share similar chassis and drivetrain.

** edit: This link says that the next gen G will be based off of the Mercedes C class platform. According to this rumor, I don't think the G will be an accurate indication of what we will be seeing for the next gen Z.

http://m.motortrend.com/future/futur...6_in_pipeline/

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smoovep

Just make a 2800lb all aluminium Z with 300hp (don't care what motor, turbo 4 or NA V6), double wishbones at all four corners, make it decent looking and I'd be first on the waiting list

smoovep

Absolutely agree, I told my Nissan dealer if Honda still made the S2k, I'd be at the Honda dealer right now

cavemancan

Agreed if that was the case then no one would be competing against a 16 cyl Veyron. In that compareson only power to weight and top speed need apply.

In our case its performance per $. What do you get for the money and unfortunately for me an Ugly Mustang seems to have a strong argument. I think I'd rather go slower LOL! Not...buys mods.

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Good that should drive C6 Z06 prices down and make me a happy camper!


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Edit: Moving photchop...lol! Mustangs and Z's...no way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGTwGoMMPvw

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cavemancan

"Q. Another source was suggesting that both platforms and engines will be built by Mercedes. Is this true?


A. No. While one or two models will employ Mercedes technology, our main powertrain will be a Nissan developed direct injection engine based on the current VQ series engine block, but with a totally redesigned head unit. We will only use a four-cylinder diesel from Mercedes."

"Q. And what about that high performance model you mentioned?

A. I thought you might ask about that. We have an all-new engine in the pipeline that will only be built in Japan, as it requires specialized production methods only available here. It is a totally new 3.7-liter direct injection, twin-turbocharged V-6 that is being built for our new IPL (Infiniti Performance Line) range of high-performance vehicles. Targeting the likes of the C63 AMG and M3, it will generate upwards of 530 hp."

"Q. What about pricing? Won't this IPL be expensive?

A. The 530-hp IPL-spec G will probably be priced at around the same price as the GT-R if not a fraction more. Given that the basic C63 AMG costs (in Japan) around 10 million yen, that is where the IPL will be priced, I feel."


- The last one sums it up...we are NOT getting a twin charged engine for the Z unless they bump the price by $20k

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UNKNOWN_370

Or unless there is some secret FI 4 banger we don't know about. Nissan is good for holding secrets and popping out with surprise cars and motors.


the new g is now the Q and I'm dying to see the corvette final product. so far, not diffing the renderings, but I'm sure the stats will be sicker than ever.

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Question is... What the hell are they doing @ Toyota??? From safety leaders to safety failures? Why the inconsistency in quality??? Toyota lead the way from 1985-2002 and then???? First the loss of all viable sports cars. Then sterilizing the drive feel and performance of all Toyota's. Now they are going back to being unsafe vehicles, a reputation from the 70's. Talk about taking 5 steps forward and 10 steps back.