The next gen Z!

UNKNOWN_370

I thought about that too. a 2.7 wouldn't be feasibly efficient for a v6 which would bring us to the tried and true 3.0 displacement. 3.2 would be the largest they,d be able to go before the engine gets too big.

My vision goes like this...

A well engineered 2.4 i4 can pull 220-250hp NA, while in house turbo plumbing can bring it to 320-370hp stock, with room to expand out to 500bhp fairly inexpensively. On a 3000lb chassis, that would easily compete against a 2015 BRZ turbo, 2014 porsche cayman turbo, and the next iteration of the genesis coupe which I can see being a 380hp N/A engine with a 10 speed auto. lol
Throw in a close ratio much improved 6 speed transmission,8000rpm redline and bring out the first DCT with DRM as the newest high tech installation on the Z and we're good to go.

Lastly, a longer hood with our small engine pushed all the way to the back for better balanced, lower stance, lower roofline, maintain our width. Handling will increase, power will probably stay the same as now, torque will probably increase and we'd probably have a consistent 4.5 second car to 60mph and sub 13 quarters with the weight reduction. maintaining our width, reducing a little weight in the suspension and keeping our current tires widths... We should exceed the current handling statistics by a pretty big margin????

Sounds good to me.

rudi

I read somewhere that Nissan is now sharing engines with Mercedes. Does anyone know what they have to offer the new Z?

SS_Firehawk

Since when did Caymans and BRZ's magically get turbo's when they are brand new with no plans to add them?

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speedfreek

Since 2014...

2014 Porsche Cayman Turbo - Top Speed

BRZ Will Finally Get Factory Turbo Power in 2014 - Autoholics

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theDreamer

They have said well over a year ago they were building a turbo version of the FA20 but currently they were only going to put it in the WRX. The last news I read for an upgraded Subaru 86 car was a higher NA engine from factory.

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SS_Firehawk

There is one recurring theme I see here... RUMORS. Why in the blue hell will Porsche put turbo's on their entry level vehicle when they have the 911, 911 turbo, 911 GT2, 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS. I don't see them breaking their price and performance model when they can up sell them if the customer wants more. With both vehicles, I'm all for seeing them with more, but at this time, I don't think we will see them come from the factory with turbo's for a while.

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JungleZ

Hey guys I was wondering if you guys wanna get some signatures from everyone on this website that regardless of what Nissan does with the next gen z, please take care of their quality control for their paint standards.

UNKNOWN_370

Thanks for handling that.

edub370

Cayman won't go turbo. Think about it logically guys. They won't want to step on the 911's toes by doing that.

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JungleZ

Why do you guys keep mentioning porshe.. A z shouldn't cost more than 35-37k anymore more than that and the package is not worth it

A turbo brz will be probably be 32k tops ?

red6spd

Putting anything other then a 6 in a Z would be like running something other then a 8 in a Vette. There would be riots in the street LOL.

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bvl

Logically to achieve > 30mpg and keep up with ridiculous legislation they will need to do this at some point, however entry level makes more sense.

An S model putting out 300+ HP does not as it steps too close to base 911's which is the flagship (and has long been a problem with the Cayman S anyway...)

Personally, I am curious if a Porsche engineered H4 will sound like a Porsche at that point. Thought the 944 was a fantastic handling chassis, the I4 in it was anemic at best.

For the Z car, the history around the Z has been the affordable sports car. People seem to want it to be sub-super car in this thread. Why? Suggestions for more performance/less weight will drive cost up significantly. Not to pick on anyone, but an all AL frame will mean a 80K+ car. Remember the NSX?

I think the A8 still is mostly AL. If it was feasible they would use it also in the A4/A6 which are the profit places for Audi but its simply not cost effective at those market levels.

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SS_Firehawk

Pretty sure both those articles stated the word "rumors" multiple times. The FRS going FI, your confusing an optional TRD supercharger, not installed from the factory. As for the Porsche, they are already achieving 30+ mpg without turbo's, and why go turbo for a measly 25hp over the 6? Turbo's are not the remedy to better performance when your putting it on a puny motor. There is not a single 4 banger turbo making the 350hp from the factory that the Nismo is rated. Let alone the 911 GT3RS 4.0 flat 6 that pushed out an astonishing 500hp right out of Stuggart. Yes you can make that power with a turbo 4, but the powerband will not be remotely close to being as usable or enjoyable on a track or in more pedestrian situations.

I personally don't see turbo's as the only saving grace of the auto industry to improve fuel economy, it's just a different way of getting the same results. Power is never free. V6's in passenger cars are already exceeding 30mpg. From an engineering standpoint, it's not all about the motor. The transmission, tire sizing, weight, and aero will all play a critical role. Mark my words, I guarantee there will be 400hp 6 cylinder high performance N/A motors achieving 30+mpg without turbo's.

Concluding points I'm making, I still feel it's very unlikely we will see turbo's in the Z, FRS/BRZ, or the Cayman for a while. The turbo is not the cure for everything, sound engineering is. Nissan has an amazing engineering team and will most likely produce an evolution as opposed to a revolution to the Z. The 370Z is a successful automobile at what it was designed to compete with. I see the Z getting incrementally more expensive, but I don't see it as a problem, it just opens a nice space for true inexpensive performance car in the lineup.

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UNKNOWN_370

FRS has never been confirmed for FI. BUT, the BRZ. The articles are here and the word "RUMOR" is non-existent for the BRZ and the porsche is in between fact and fiction which in terms of how articles are written. It seems like it's more than likely.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...ICGCcX4arqZ7jg

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...Ss5QCo8bXQNKkQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...pX7X7kTjm1t21A

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...EOoxiGFZN5Gbzw

Turbo's aren't "the saving grace of the auto industry". It's the saving grace of the Tuner-Enthusiast market.