Obviously photoshopped. :rolleyes:

The Z and Mustang 5.0 are regular competitors in pro racing. Just look at the races for the Doran racing team. They're regularly competing with mustangs, camaros, m3's, etc.

You can argue different classes all day long, but an overwhelming majority of consumers (including those who look at performance cars) use price to compare different "classes" of cars. You can't just look at the # of cylinders to determine competitor, especially now when companies are downsizing and adding FI.

You mean the 5.0 badges right? Those are clearly V6 mustangs :ugh2:

As are all race cars, obviously. There is no racing series that just takes cars off the street and puts them on a track without upgrading components for longevity, durability, and performance.

I'll make sure to make my next purchase decision while completely ignoring price.


I do agree that the v6 mustang is probably the closer competitor to the z, though probably not for the same reasons you do.

I can haz ride in your future Veyron?

Honda needs a 30-35k sport car in my opinion. I'm pissed they went economy car route..
Hate to say it but if Honda had redid the s2k or came out with something not but ugly with actual torque that's what I would be driving.

Also anyone see the new c7 looks like 370z gtr and Ferrari had a baby!

That's exactly my point. You can use price to argue about your purchase. But at the end of the day... there are seperate spec classes. Now you say the Doran races compare them. But I would have to know what's happening under the hood of those cars to argue that. I don't. Modifed racing narrows gaps and that's another ballpark altogether. But whatever... the same 5 guys are gonna argue about the same mustang shyt for the 500th time... The same Z jockers and mustang fanboys run the same argument since the 2011 mustang came out and its pretty silly if you think about it.

1. This is a Z forum so bias is going for a Z.
2. Mustang jockers are trying to convert the thinking of people that want to be one sided.
3. Mustangs and Z's from stock are two different types of cars.
4. BRZ's are totally different from us and stangs.

Damn, I have a Titan pick up that's 40k... let me stack it up against my Z since they both run about $40k. Oh, the Nismo and Landrover evoque... yeah that'll work???? Come on dudes. Specs mean everything.

No car gets put up against everything under the sun as the Z does over price... lol

Ego comparison. Even when the mustang 4.6 was getting taken down by Z's, I always saw two totally different cars. But to each his own I guess. Enjoy 501 arguing the same argument.

Just like how a base Corvette is comparable to a Ferrari 458. :ugh2:

Unfortunately Honda won't build anything fun ever again. It's part of their new design philosophy.

How to build a new model Honda:

1) Come up with a great idea

2) Ruin it

3) Production!

GM and Chrysler stepped up... Somebody has to suck now. Honda, Toyota were eager to fill that gap. Lol.

The problem with specs is you're being too specific. :icon17:

Most people shop based on very broad segments. Mustang, 370Z, Camaro, Gen Coupe, etc. could all be thrown into the "Sports Car / Sporty Car" segment. So they'll get compared against one another as long as they are close in price.

Will they look at a Tundra? No, because it's not a "sports car / sporty car."

That's just the way the world works.

Speaking of Toyota... have you seen the crash test results for the Camry and Prius in the new "small overlap" IIHS test? Holy crap they were HORRIBLE. I was always under the impression that Toyota was pretty good at crash structure.

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1..._600/image.JPG

The driver would be absolutely MANGLED in this type of crash.