2011 or 2013??
 

Hi. Long time lurker, first time poster. I totaled my previous car last week, looking to pick up a Z Roadster.

A dealership 100 miles away has a 2011 Roadster with Touring & Sport package on the lot with 15 miles on it that I can drive away tomorrow.

Or I can order a 2013 Roadster, also Touring & Sport Package, and wait 3-4 months for delivery. The local dealership has offered a {crappy but free} loaner for the whole time if I order the new one since I'm car-less at the moment.

The 2011 is 15% cheaper, with the benefit of immediate delivery, but of course it's 2 years older, so when I go to sell it will have lower trade-in value.

I would be interested in your thoughts on this decision. Thanks in advance.

Sorry, it's my first post, looks like I put it in the wrong forum. Could an admin move it to General Discussions please?

With only 15 miles on the 2011, I'd say that's a no-brainer!!

But then again, I'm not a fan of a lot of the changes in the 2013 styling :ugh2: to each their own, though. I'm also impatient :icon17:

**now that I post, I wonder how a 2 year old car could only have 15 miles on it. Anyone have thoughts on service that should be done for a brand new car that been sitting for 2 years? I would ask for fresh fluids at the very least.

I would just go ahead with the 2011, I do find it odd the extreme low milleage. Your really not going to care about the age in a few years, so instead of trying to get the latest yr/model out there, save some money and go with the 2011. I would also not be able to wait around for the 2013 if the 2011 model is what I wanted.

It depends if you like the looks of the minor facelifting on the 2013. I don't like the changes made to the front especially the removal of the "fangs" in the radiator grille and the vertical LED daytime running lights. As for the rear, I think they added the center fog lamp that the JDM and some right hand drive cars have. Are you LHD or RHD in Taiwan?

I pretty much agree with the above. Unless you really like the new look of the 2013 model, go ahead grab the 2011 one. You could save some money and enjoy it right away.

Having said that, the 2013 model's new look is really growing on me. I wasn't a big fan of them until I saw one in person.

13. Better suspension and NO steering lock problems also get an oil cooler as well. Forget the fangs, they are old news and weren't loved either when they appeard. The 2013 improvements outweigh the 11 no problem.

11's don't have steering lock problems. You can also do your own oil cooler instead of the junk Nissan claims is one. Unless color or style is a big deal to you, the 11' is a much much better buy. I wouldn't look at the suspension changes on a convertible as a benefit. That's my personal opinion. The difference would most likely be very minor. And seriously, since when was the base suspension considered bad?

Hmmm... I didn't know there is a suspention upgrade on the 13s. Is this upgrade on all the models or just for the convertible?

It's a "eurotuned" suspension. Most likely a damper change, that's it. It's only for the SP models. I'm not 100% for verts, but I'll say those as well.

Every revision of the lock has failed. Why even put up with that item on your car. If you can afford either get the newest one. OP should drive both and then decide. Neither is a bad choice of course.

Only 15% less for the 2011? I'd ask for a better and go for instant gratification.

I bought a 2011 Roadster this year. It was new with 67 miles. Touring, Sport, and Navigation. It was earlier this year, but I got 0 percent Nissan financing.
I dont suppose thats available now, but it made up my mind.

Do a search on any 11+ having steering lock issues, find one and I'll redact my statement. In all honesty, if the OP doesn't have a preference on style or specific color, the 2011 is a much better buy. They will most likely offer special financing and more $$$ of in comparison to the 2013. It's not a matter of affordability. A SP + touring convertible model with nav can scrape past 50k. Getting the same thing for less is just more sensible. The depreciation on such a loaded vehicle will hurt when buying new, at least get it for a huge discount to ease the pain. Now if the OP wants the new blue or red color, likes the new SP rims and bumper, by all means, get what you want. But to me, saying I got a 13' instead of I have an 11' because its "newer than the other new car? That's just a smug individual trying to make a statement no one would give a flying F about in the first place.... except the smug individual.

^^^^ This. :thumbup:

I've been following the steering lock threads for weeks now and I've not seen a case involving a 2011+ model to date. Mostly 2009 and 2010 models.

Let the redactions begin:

Smug nothing. Buy what is the lastest for better performance.....always. I listed the items that make the newer model better in my opinion but again the OP and his money matter more than my silly opinion :)

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I fell victim of the steering lock problem, car was towed to the dealer....

Please link :) And if it is performance first.....always, where's your Nismo? Oh wait, those didn't have a performance advantage either. OP, please let us know what you get haha. You have us arguing over the merits of two vehicles that are 99% the same. Oh and FYI, 15% off 50k is $42,500.

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...-2010s-22.html

Nismo not needed as you said :) On the Autobahn at 130+mph you cant tell the difference Im betting.

You win that battle haha. Impressive you found what must be the single existing steering wheel lock issue on the 2011's. Then again, mine was manufactured in August 2011 and bought late Sep. Not sure if they made any more changes or that 2011 was fitted with an older revision.

get the 2011 hands down the better Z. :rofl2::tup:

Unless ur dying to tell people u have a 2013 and the new front is a must than by all means...rock the 2013. In the end its ur $. We will accept here either way;)

No battle. That part is a trainwreck and Nissan is giving us the finger rather than recall. Deleted on the 13 of course. What rev is on your machine.

This. Its a Z and a great machine fangs or no fangs!!

penfed.org 1.49 apr financing.

Go for the '11 no-brainer. The '13 is butt ugly.

For sure ask for fresh oil at least. Seriously.
And try to negotiate for a bit more than 15%. I got almost that on my 2010 when I bought it in late 2010.

I like a good debate lol. Not sure what revision mine is. Can't check because I'm in AFG and the car is with GTM getting nice goodies put on

I'm just curious what the car they'll loan you for free for 4 months is lol a 2-door altima coupe? I'm really loving those :tup:

I guess in the end it comes down to.. what colour is the 11? if it's the blue you want.. the 11 blue is sooooo much nicer than the new dark constipated poopie blue. daytime LEDs are also quite tacky imho. but you 'do' get to say you have a brand new 13 with perfect paint and fresh warranty.

personally I like the pre-13's.. but for only 15% more (like $3000? $3500?) I would be tempted for the brand new one, esp if you're going with white or black.

oh and post pics of your new car and/or 3 month loaner :icon17:

Rog. See if GTM can look under the wheel and inform you. Stay safe!

If i were forced to buy a 2013. I think the front looks pretty good in black and magma red. :) Blue is ok, silver gm and white, the front end looks weird. Solid Red the car looks completely wack. The new Z front is seriously color dependent.

If i were buying a 2013, i'd honeslty be buying a Nismo.

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I do not like the new front facia or the rims of the 2013 so I would go with the 2011. It looks better and it would be the cheaper choice. The only thing I would ask would be to do a full flush of fluids add new ones and do a full maintenance to it. you know the basics.

go for the 2011, overall better styling than the new model. not enough updated on the 2013 for it to be worth extra dough. Buy the 2011 and use the money you save on mods!

I'd get the 2011. I still wouldn't trust the steering lock in the 2013 model anyways. They might never get it right haha. Just pull the fuse and :driving:

11.

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Thanks to all for your comments and suggestions. Personally I was leaning towards the 2011 for the immediate availability and the lower price, but the local dealership pushing the 2013 got into my wife's head about "can we trust it's really only 15 miles", "there must be something wrong with it if nobody buys it", etc.

We're going up there today to check it out, so we'll see...

Unless you can get a stellar deal on the 11, I'd go for the 13. Then, you could get exactly what you want, built to your specs. It's a painful wait, but sooo worth it. =]

Yeahhhh... 15% off isn't enough...
If they give 25%, take it, if not, use their loaner and get a 2013

Just back from checking out the 2011 model. The low mileage is probably accurate, they don't give test drives here, so those miles are from going off and on a truck traveling around to car shows and other promotions. It doesn't feel 'new' though, the seats are scuffed up, you can tell a thousand people have sat in that car, and it's covered with swirl marks and even some small scratches.

I pointed all this out, but he won't budge on the price, I even tried to be a little flexible to get some non-cash enhancements like a free polish to clean up some of the swirl marks and he rejected even that.

So, looks like I'll be ordering a 2013 Magma Red Roadster tomorrow, expected delivery in early April...

dam well atleast you get a new un-used model. :tup:

So a dealership that doesn't give test drives. How do they sell cars? Hope you ordered somewhere else? Your car is going to come off the truck, and they won't let you test drive it, then come to find out, there is a problem that could have been caught on the test drive. And does a dealer refuse to detail a vehicle that was in their possession to make it like new again when they sell it? I don't know where your shopping for cars, but there are plenty of dealers here on the forum who will take your order at a guaranteed price and ship it to you. That stealership probably sucks ballsack and that's why that car has been there for as long as it has.