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Redglare 11-23-2012 12:19 PM

Finally saved enough cash!
 
Deposited my last paycheck and I am now ready to buy a manual 370. (a year of saving and cutting back spending on everything)

The dilemma: went to the nissan dealer, test drove a left over '12 and a '13, decided to wait a few more days to decide and ask you guys which year you would go with, however as I was leaving the dealership the salesman told me to hold out and not buy a Z as the model redesign is around the corner :icon14:
Then I started browsing different forums and found out the mustang redesign is around the corner as well.

Would you purchase now or hold out for a little longer for the redesign?
common sense is telling me to wait for the next model year, the itch for a sports car making me want to get the '12 base sport.

I hope I don't get flamed too hard for this!

thanks for the input

NickTurnon 11-23-2012 12:26 PM

If you are all about having the LATEST & GREATEST then wait it out. New Models are a couple months away..

That being said, I didnt know they were redoing more on the 370z.. I was kind of hoping they would make a 390z or something.

If you love the car, then the year wont really matter as the 09-12's look identical with the exception of a couple things.

Good luck! I bought my '09 370z without doing any research. I wanted a 350z/g35/or a4.. Ended up test driving the 370z and nothing compared. Had to throw down 12k for a down payment instead of buying an entire car.

Now i am making payments. Do i regret it? Eh..sort of. I could be spending my money on better/more responsibile things. But I love the car to death so it makes it worth it.

SS_Firehawk 11-23-2012 01:00 PM

If you plan on waiting, just wait till the new G model debuts. It will be a good indicator of what the next Z will have under the hood. Mustang will be based on the same platform but IRS and maybe some minor tweaks to the motor.

Z-Girl 12 11-23-2012 06:55 PM

He wont be able to wait....my money is on him driving a Z by Wednesday!

blackcherry20 11-23-2012 07:13 PM

MMC notorious for bugs.....buy the 12 base sport and get a great deal....imho.:tup:

w0rM 11-23-2012 07:30 PM

And now, deep thoughts with w0rM....

Waiting... like looking for the perfect woman... you could play that game until the end of time. It all comes back to what's most important to you. I really love my 12 sport. It's not perfect, but don't be fooled. There is no perfect car. If that's what you're looking for, no matter what you buy, you'll be disappointed when it's all said and done.

Follow your heart and never look back once you make your choice. :)

Now back to your regularly scheduled forum...

madwi 11-23-2012 07:31 PM

Well *I* bought a '13 Z...Of course there is about 4 Z's around here...In the end get what makes you happy!

diddy535 11-23-2012 07:53 PM

You've saved so far, if you're really curious about a new model just wait a few more months (save even more) and worst case you could still get a 2012 with a bigger down payment!

Z-Girl 12 11-23-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2030251)
And now, deep thoughts with w0rM....

Waiting... like looking for the perfect woman... you could play that game until the end of time. It all comes back to what's most important to you. I really love my 12 sport. It's not perfect, but don't be fooled. There is no perfect car. If that's what you're looking for, no matter what you buy, you'll be disappointed when it's all said and done.

Follow your heart and never look back once you make your choice. :)

Now back to your regularly scheduled forum...

:icon18:

forza370z 11-23-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by diddy535 (Post 2030322)
You've saved so far, if you're really curious about a new model just wait a few more months (save even more) and worst case you could still get a 2012 with a bigger down payment!

I can't agree with this more. If you've waited that long to save up the money to buy a z you might as well hold out for a few more monthes to see what's coming up. You got nothing to lose. Saving money is not easy so don't make yourself sorry.

Mt Tam I am 11-24-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2029699)
Deposited my last paycheck and I am now ready to buy a manual 370. (a year of saving and cutting back spending on everything)
............................
Would you purchase now or hold out for a little longer for the redesign?
common sense is telling me to wait for the next model year, the itch for a sports car making me want to get the '12 base sport.

I hope I don't get flamed too hard for this!

thanks for the input

You've saved and waited for a 370Z not a redesign which may or may not be coming soon. You may need to save longer for a newer car so I'd take the close out deal now.

onzedge 11-24-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 2030907)
You've saved and waited for a 370Z not a redesign which may or may not be coming soon. You may need to save longer for a newer car so I'd take the close out deal now.

:iagree:

LakeShow 11-24-2012 11:51 AM

Just get it now and cut the sh1t. :tup: You know you want it, you probably already bought it anyways.

FairladyZ 11-24-2012 11:55 AM

dude there is always someshit new coming out.

just enjoy yourself now man.

Z-Girl 12 11-24-2012 12:02 PM

I remember when i sold my G35...i was determined to wait for the remodel...well here we r 3 yrs ltr and its not coming out till next summer/spring. So glad i didnt hold my breathe...im totally diggin my Z...

binary0x01 11-24-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2030988)
dude there is always someshit new coming out.

just enjoy yourself now man.

I find that's a trend of chasing the next best thing.

FairladyZ 11-24-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 2030992)
I find that's a trend of chasing the next best thing.


yeah.

I bought the 12's in april.

the 13's came out a few months later on to the showroom floor.

I didn't care. I enjoyed mine and still do. I wouldn't mind either a 12 or 13.

Dustin@Z1 11-24-2012 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2029699)
....as I was leaving the dealership the salesman told me to hold out and not buy a Z as the model redesign is around the corner

I would like to see him site his sources on this. I would expect the "next" Z for atleast 2~3 years since the '13 is the current model revision. Probably a late 2014 model debuted as a 2015. Me personally, I would go for a 2012 since you could probably pick up the 2012 for less since the dealerships are attempting to clear out older inventory. The downside is that you will be limited on available options whereas a new 2013 you could have a much wider array of options/color packages to choose from.

Dustin@Z1 11-24-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 2030994)
yeah.
I bought the 12's in april.
the 13's came out a few months later on to the showroom floor.

We purchased my wife's 2012 Altima the same month as they debuted the 2013 model in Detoit. My wife even told me when were looking at the 2012's, "I really wish they would put the Maxima style headlights and tail lights on an Altima". The dealership told us that would never happen. You should have seen how PISSED she was when I showed her the pictures from the debut in Detroit.

280z/300zx 11-24-2012 01:13 PM

Here is a little break down to help put into perspective.

Mustang: next gen isn't due out until 2015 model, which means you are looking at seeing it probably summer 2014. What we know: about 300lbs lighter with only minor tweaks to the motor if anything. Also a more European style to it. Slightly smaller but roughly the same dimensions.

Camaro: next gen also not due until roughly 2015 model year. Chevy is also looking to put the car on a diet both in weight and size. Undoubtedly it will be competitive with the Mustang. Should use the new LT1 motor Chevy is putting in the Vette rumored to have a base hp of 450. Only time will tell

Cuda: The challenger is on it's way out and being replaced by the Hemi Cuda. Supposed to get similar body cues of the current challenger but like the other two cars mentioned will drop in both size and weight. No conformation on motor but should be in the 400+ area like the others

Subaru STI: Next gen due for 2014 model year so we should be seeing something soon and it should be on dealer lots buy the mid-end of 2013. Rumored to separate from the Impreza line it's shared it's entire life but in doing so make it a better sports sedan/coupe. Whether that means a completely new chasis or only the body who knows. And yes, coupe is not a typo. It's rumored that it may have a coupe or two door option or possibly 3-door hatch. Motor is rumored to still stay around the 300hp range but weight of the car should drop. The rumors have been flying for about a year now and with the car due out soon the Suby enthusiasts are chomping at the bit.

Next Gen Z: last but not least our beloved Z. No real news or rumors from Nissan. Considering the Z usually comes out 1year after the G series we are probably looking at a new Z for 2015. This means that like the 3 muscle cars we probably won't see anything new for a while. Is it possible Nissan will tweak the motor for a bit of hp for the 2014 model? Sure, they've done it before. Still, for a complete re-freash we still have a bit more time to go.

In summary, aside from the Subaru, we have roughly 6mo to 1 year before we have an idea of what the next gen Z/mustang/Camaro/Cuda will bring and probably closer to 1.5 years before they are on dealer lots. If you consider that most of the time there are dealer mark ups on new models you could theorize that it will be 2-3 years from now before you can get into one of these new cars for less than MSRP. That's quite a long time if you ask me. Buy your Z now and just enjoy as it will be a while before you can get into one of the next gen cars.

As for 2012 vs. 2013, the biggest difference is the front bumper. You have to decide which you like first. The only other consideration is depreciation. The 2012 is already a year old despite being brand new. That means the moment you drive it off the lot it is worth much less than if you bought the 2013. From a financial perspective I would be pushing for 5k under invoice on the 2012. As for the 2013, considering it's the end of the year and dealers are wanting to move cars, as well as the fact that it's winter and it's the slowest time for selling sports car. I would be shooting for 1k under invoice on the 2013.

Magic Bus 11-24-2012 02:28 PM

280z/300zx, good post.

Looking at my crystal ball, it says, buy now enjoy now. Buy next year, enjoy next year.

There you have it......the crystal ball has spoken :icon17:

SS_Firehawk 11-24-2012 04:13 PM

I'm just gonna make my car faster than the next best thing and justify my mod addiction. I convinced my Wife I needed the radiator because the new condenser might help my flaky AC in 105+ heat... And I bought her some flowers :P


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