370z vs Wrx Sti

Rev1Z

Had the 370z for awhile now and been doing alot been doing research about modding it and seems theres not much you can do to gain more power without going f.i so ive been shopping around for wrx sti something about the car that catches my attention. anyone have/had experience with the sti? was looking at a brand new model sti...i know the wrx sti have a better mod potential then the z and handles better but no nothing else about them any advice? im basicly looking for a car that can gain alot more power but ca also be an ok dd

binary0x01

The Z's more fun, and it looks better

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Start by test driving the STI. Everything else is subjective car boy stuff.

FairladyZ

I've had an 05

Had turbo back Cobb tuned etc

You can make power easy and it has insane low end torque but personally those cars are ugly.

I'd take a z any day.

Luke

lol maybe ask an sti forum
my friend has an sti and he likes my 370 more and i think his car is a barge.
They have been detuned as time has gone on and not as good as they use to be.
Z looks heaps better too!!!

shadoquad

I own both.

The Z is faster on a race track, it will handle better at high speeds. You won't get a lot more power out of the engine short of FI, but you'd lose money trading for an STI anyway. The Z also looks better, imo. The Z also makes its power NA, so it isn't laggy or straining. And it's Rwd, which is very fun.

The Sti will be drivable in more winter conditions and is roomier. It launches quick due to awd. It is cheaper to get high power gains, but not too much cheaper. Its suspension is super stiff, so it is agile, but no easier on my back than the Z. It is a more practical dd, but worse on gas from what I've seen. The boooost makes every trip fun, and the short throw shifter is nicer than the Z's shifter.

I love both. Do your research and make the right decision for you.

Chuck33079

It really depends more on what you want down the line. Since you're in TX, AWD isn't really a necessity. If you're only looking for 300-350 whp, it's much easier to do on the Subaru. Downpipe, TMIC, boost control solenoid and tune. There's your reliable 325 whp or so. Change the fluids on time and the car will last forever. Ringlands are an issue on the stock tune, so budget in a reflash. It doesn't handle better than a Z out of the box. It understeers like a pig. Swap out the sway bars and it's a night and day difference. If you do all of that, you've got a great daily driver.

Compared to the Z, it's a lot easier to get the first 50+ whp. If you're looking to go over 400ish whp, mods will cost about the same if you did it right and didn't cut corners. A 400 whp STI on the stock block will blow up. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you should at least have the funds set aside for when it happens.

I sold my 2004 STI to buy my Z. It was a stage 2/FMIC/EWG running 93+meth. It put down 330/350 on a heartbreaker dyno. It was an absolute animal. Very little on the road could keep up with it up to 90 mph or so. And a G37s with bolt ons and a tune walked away from it on the freeway once we both hit 4th gear. Just so you have a point of reference.

I also had every mount and bushing swapped out for either poly or the Group N rally car pieces. Sway bars, end links, a ton of chassis bracing and a sweet set of Ohlins adjustable struts. It handled better than anything else I've driven. It was also awful as a daily driver due to all of the NVH and the stiffness. Do springs and sway bars, and you'll have a wonderful daily driver. Beyond that, it'll beat you up.

Also, Subarus rattle after 15k miles or so. There's nothing you can do about it. Just turn up the radio. I spent hours chasing rattles and squeaks, and for every one I fixed two popped up. Save yourself the frustration.

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Power mod potential vs dollars will go to the STi simply because turbo upgrades get huge gains w/o having to go the whole new turbo/SC route. "Handles better" is definitely up for debate.

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Chuck33079

I replied to your other thread. I've owned both. You can't really go wrong with either. I love my Z. I still miss my STI.

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red6spd

Welcome to the world of turbos. The STI will take to mods much better then the Z but to say there is not much you can do to add power to the Z with FI is silly. Full bolt-on's and a tune is netting people 30-40hp increase,that is really good on a NA car. As for the STI handling better that is just simply incorrect. The STI is a great handling car but not as good as the Z.

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edub370

allow me to answer some of these points. my roommate has an 09 STI gr. i road in it every other day for the last year + and have driven it a few times. that, and the z and subie guys do a lot of stuff together here in kc as well.



the sti has better mod potential to a point... sure, u can bolt on 320whp with the stock turbo. or go rotated and make as much power as u want. HOWEVER, even with the z being na, it can handle high hp MUCH better than sti's. sti's have, and have had forever, ringland issues when u go over 400whp. pretty much garunteed to crack them in a couple weeks at that hp level. then its hello engine rebuild! also, the fit and finish of the z is superior to the sti imho. close the door in a z, then close it in an sti... 1 of them sounds like an empty beer can and its not the z.

handling better is definately up for debate. the sti's corner entry speeds are much slower, but exits speeds are much quicker. the z u can kinda toss into a corner at higher speed and it will have enough traction to settle down and pull you thru. sti's will understeer like a mofo if thrown into a corner too quickly. however they can exit much quicker because of their awd system.

there is no comparison if u want a sports car. the z is a sports car, not a sports sedan. however, if u need a little utility, then the sti is a great bang for the buck sports sedan. it even performs great on the track. however, steering and driver feel is 10x better in the z. the sti is quicker from the stopligths without a doubt. i mean those things can launch HARD. but the Z is faster in general. meaning that once u are rolling a 300whp z can end up reeling in a 330whp sti without any problems.

really comes down to what you are needing out of a car. if u need a little utility and passenger space, then the sti is for u. if u want a true sports car that will get looks everywhere u go, then the z is your car

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Chuck33079

Reposted from your other thread

It really depends more on what you want down the line. Since you're in TX, AWD isn't really a necessity. If you're only looking for 300-350 whp, it's much easier to do on the Subaru. Downpipe, TMIC, boost control solenoid and tune. There's your reliable 325 whp or so. Change the fluids on time and the car will last forever. Ringlands are an issue on the stock tune, so budget in a reflash. It doesn't handle better than a Z out of the box. It understeers like a pig. Swap out the sway bars and it's a night and day difference. If you do all of that, you've got a great daily driver.

Compared to the Z, it's a lot easier to get the first 50+ whp. If you're looking to go over 400ish whp, mods will end up costing about the same if you did it right and didn't cut corners. A 400 whp STI on the stock block will blow up. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but you should at least have the funds set aside for when it happens.

I sold my 2004 STI to buy my Z. It was a stage 2/FMIC/EWG running 93+meth. It put down 330/350 on a heartbreaker dyno. It was an absolute animal. Very little on the road could keep up with it up to 90 mph or so. And a G37s with bolt ons and a tune walked away from it on the freeway once we both hit 4th gear. Just so you have a point of reference.

I also had every mount and bushing swapped out for either poly or the Group N rally car pieces. Sway bars, end links, a ton of chassis bracing and a sweet set of Ohlins adjustable struts. It handled better than anything else I've driven. It was also awful as a daily driver due to all of the NVH and the stiffness. Do springs and sway bars, and you'll have a wonderful daily driver. Beyond that, it'll beat you up.

Also, Subarus rattle after 15k miles or so. There's nothing you can do about it. Just turn up the radio. I spent hours chasing rattles and squeaks, and for every one I fixed two popped up. Save yourself the frustration.

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edub370

^^ lol at how similar our to 2 assesments are of the cars

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Rev1Z

Thanks for the reply guys! I was/kind of happy with the z untill its the same power even with full bolt ons i dont think I would be that happy...Im just looking for something I can make more power max (600 ish) so i am going to go test drive a new wrx sti and see how it goes. Would go domestic but more of an import guy I know domestic make pretty good num with bolt ons

Chuck33079

Pretty much dead on. In addition, the STI is a lot more forgiving if you're going to drive like a dumbass. The 3 LSDs will pull you out of maneuvers that would have left a Z wrapped around a tree.

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